This is why we don't buy el cheapo optics...

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MY experience has been, even cheaper scopes these days have decent glass, it's the rest of the scope that's border line junk!

Also, even though the glass may be good, the "coatings", not so much.

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Klint Beastwood said:
Circumstances and needs dictate what is best at that time and it may not be best at another time as far as companies and resources go.
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I agree. Couple of the things to consider when saying "Brand X is better than brand Z"

(a). The cost level of the individual brands and models needs to be considered. Saying a $500 scope from one company is significantly superior versus a $200 model from another is not apples to apples

(b). The age/manufacturing year should be considered. A new VX-3 is far superior to a VX-III.

(c). A vast majority of respondents to polls and threads most likely have a sample size of one. Quite difficult to give a reasonable response, but that usually doesn't deter their opinion. I also suspect many keep regurgitating the same tired opinion over and over regardless of personal experience

"I done read it on the interweb somewhere, so it's gotta be true"
 
I've had good experience with a relatively low priced red dot, the Bushnell TRS-25. I've got a huge scientific sampling of two, but they both seem to hold their zero, and for the price, I'm very happy with them. Combat quality? No, but neither am I any more. lol
 
Before I broke down and decided that my Savage Axis needed a scope, I tried an inexpensive red dot that I bought off amazon or e-bay (I don't remember). It was a collection of aluminum and zinc castings with some electronics and a lens that looked like a 1960's television screen. The castings were so rough that I couldn't adjust the thing because the parts kept hanging up on each other. I took the thing apart, sanded or burnished everything, reassembled it and got it to zero. It would hold a zero just fine with fairly heavy 223 loads.

I've never been an "optics" kind of person, but decided that if I was going to give up irons on a bolt gun, I needed to bite the bullet and get a scope. I found a nice Bushnell on clearance at a gun store and bought it. I hope to put it on and see how it does this August. But, my experience with cheap Chinese red dots is that they can be pretty good with a little effort on the shooter's part, but, if I was going to live or die based on the performance of my optic, I'd look for an Aimpoint.
 
So, in the old days we used to worry about badly-ground lenses. Now we generally have great lenses but the rest of the scope falls apart.

Who says there's no such thing as progress?
 
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