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Thor Heyerdahl, Norwegian adventurer / gun control advocate?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by grimjaw, Apr 18, 2006.

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  1. grimjaw

    grimjaw Member

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    I was digging around today for information about Norway, and ran across this quote from Thor Heyerdahl (deceased). I believe it was written about the burning of his ship, Tigris, in protest of the wars of Africa at the time:

    Please forgive me ignorance, but I am unfamiliar with Heyerdahl's other work besides his ocean voyages. Was he outspoken on this matter? It's possible I misunderstand his quote or I'm reading it out of context. Perhaps someone else here has thoughts?

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  2. FPrice

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    I found this excerpt from his obituary on the BBC, draw from it what you will:

     
  3. shermacman

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    Thor Heyerdahl was, in my opinion, a brilliant and unbelievably courageous man. His short coming was common in the years following the devastation of WWII and the all consuming fear of the beginning of the nuclear age. The mantra of a world government would solve the petty problems of local strife.

    Most intellectuals worshipped at the alter of international law. They saw the reverse of "Think globally, act locally." They wanted to act globally, they wanted a device like the UN to think for people locally.

    Thor Heyerdahl got it wrong, many others did too. Don't let one little temper tantrum detract from what he did in his life.
     
  4. Biker

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    I agree, Shermacman. The sob clanked when he walked.
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  5. cambeul41

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    Shermacman, Biker

    Youv've got it!
     
  6. Standing Wolf

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    Some people enjoy cutting off their noses to spite their faces.
     
  7. mec

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    Read Kon Tiki right after he wrote it. Interesting account of sailing a raft from Peru to the pacific islands to bolster the standing theories on how polynesia became inhabited. I was pre-teen at that time and if he was political, I was not aware of it. he did have environmental concerns but it was not particularly a leftist thing at the time.
     
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    I've never seen anything anti in his books, and I've read them all. Never heard of him being active in that direction, either.

    As far as cutting off the nose to spite his face, what would you have done? Let some government jakasses that won't let you through because of their petty squabbles have the ship?

    I'd have burned it, too.
     
  9. Logan5

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    I recall a part in Fatu-Hiva where Mr. Heyerdahl, attempting to return to Norway, got hung up in customs because he was trying to bring back a Winchester rifle that he'd picked up. It had belonged to some famous artist (Auguste Rodin?) who had carved the stock and forend before abandoning it in his polynesian hut. IIRC, Heyerdahl was livid, and eventually removed the carved stock and forend, left the barreled action at customs, and felt he had shown them.
     
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    Thor Heyerdahl

    He certainly sounds like a man with the bark on. Any reccommended writings of his?
     
  11. Biker

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    "Kon Tiki".

    I read it as a kid and still remember.:)

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  12. Logan5

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    Fatu-Hiva, it was in the 30's and he took his new wife to live on an island populated by kind of barely former cannibals. There were some really hairy parts, apparently elephantitis was still common, and it makes people a bit crazy, so every once in a while someone would chase him with an axe or something. And it's got pictures. (who stops to snap a photo at a time like that?)
     
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    What a waste. Rather like setting fire to your own car "in protest" because of riots in the streets stopping you from going somewhere.
    And now we know where his political heart lies.

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    Thor Heyerdahl says that it isn't quite nice when nations lacking in bread, hope and outlook have ample supply of 7.62x39 and other means of cutting their neighbours' throats. An average advocate of the RKBA thinks that Heyerdahl would like to approach the problem by taking the guns out of the hands of law-abiding US citizens first. Looks like totally unrelated subjects which got tied into a knot somehow.

    Is there a need to do something about murder as way of life somewhere in Africa? Why not, if there is some ability?

    And do it by restricting guns where they are no problem at all? I wouldn't like such views to be attributed to me just because I am not absolutely happy with genocide in Africa.

    Best regards, Alexey
     
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    I was introduced to Thor Heyerdahl's writings through his Easter Island book in my early teens, and got ahold of Kon-Tiki soon after that. Kon-Tiki is probably the better book, but they're both very good. I didn't get any anti-gun sense from him (then again, I was in my early teens and not a shooter yet), but the guy does not appear to be lacking in physical courage, if his books are even half-accurate.
     
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    Heyerdahl an anti?

    I read Kon-Tiki as a child myself, and loved the spirit of adventure
    that Thor Heyerdahl comminicated.

    In that era of the 1950s -- duck-and-cover, CD signs over the
    basement doors of government buildings (civil defense bomb shelters) --
    it was easy to see the UN as the idealistic "best hope of mankind"
    rather than what it is -- an uber government bureaucracy.

    Heyerdahl was anti-war and anti-(stupid)government, but after
    his experience with trying to bring home that Winchester, I doubt
    if he would be anti-gun.
     
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    "it was easy to see the UN as the idealistic "best hope of mankind"
    rather than what it is -- an uber government bureaucracy."

    Well put.
     
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    I loved reading about his adventures as a kid, but never paid much attention to some of the peripheral prattle. I guess he was a man of peace, and therefore a bit 'idealistic', but I never felt he was particularly anti-self-defense. My $.02
     
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