Those junk Hi-Point C9 pistols

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  1. doubleh

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    It was sometime in the '90's. I bought quite a bit of it. I could have got a case of it one time for the price of one box as the young lady scanned the bar code and and didn't take into account that price was only for one box. I told her I appreciated the exceptionally good deal but couldn't take it and explained why. She thanked me for being honest. I saw on their website last week that is is now $14.99 and they had it in stock. Having to make a 200 + mile drive to get it would be silly and there are no internet sales. Back when I was buying it from them my wife was seeing a doctor in that town regularly so it was a no brainer to buy ammo while we were there.
     
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    True.
    True again. I do know the pot metal used in my IJ TP-22 was crap.
     
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    back in the 40-80's a lot of interior parts were. A few small exterior things like trim. Stuff that nowadays is plastic. But nothing structural comes to mind. I thing I may have seen a windshield wiper motor in that family, but it may have just been a really bad aluminum based alloy. It had cracked.
     
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    What are those gear housing for? I can say Zamak has been in cars (anyone remember crank door handles?) but I have never seen a gear box quite like that. I have seen Zamak like gear housings in power seat transmission. They held up just fine, pretty impressive given the torque a power seat has.
     
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    Those housings look like the transmission housings for a washing machine. Might be for a lawn tractor transmission as well. Lots of those cheap imported .22 revolvers from Germany 20210928_184648.jpg or Italy. They would crack. Like this.
    A Texas Scout, made in Germany.
     
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    Is that revolver supposed to come apart that way, FROGO207, or is it broken? I am not familiar with them.
     
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    That snapped in half while shooting it. the only thing holding it together was the cylinder pin when it separated.
     
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    10 yards is hardly the standard for accuracy. Their CS is very good, as they replaced my brothers 45 carbine no questions asked after it blew up. There is a gun for everyone, and it's better than a sharp stick!
     
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    Watched a video of a couple of guys trying to blow-up a Hi Point but couldn't. They even poured cement down the barrel, let it dry for 30 minutes and the bullet still blew out the cement and the pistol fired normally afterwards. Pretty amazing.
     
  10. The Happy Kaboomer

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    All Hi-Point are straight blow-back. No locking system. That's why they are big and heavy. They have to have a BIG HEAVY bolt to function.
     
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    yea, but i'm not exagerating, I think the .45 REALLY weighted 5lbs. I have handled the 9's, at about 2.5lbs, not much heavier than an average steel pistol. But the 45 felt like picking up a rifle. Far heavier than my appx 3lb 1858, noticeably heavier than any pistol I have ever held.
     
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    The ideal bathroom/kitchen drawer/basement/shop/glove box gun. In other words they’re cheap, accurate, and reliable so you could feasibly and realistically buy half a dozen and secret them away in hidey holes all around your home, just in case.
     
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    And as soon as they HiPoint gives out, you use the warranty and get another one absolutely free.
     
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    Now that most surplus guns are no longer quite so inexpensive, perhaps the hipoint pricing is more attractive, but even hipoints are no longer a hundred dollars.
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    How does that help me when I'm dead? because the gun failed when I needed it most.
     
  16. oldfortyfiveauto

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    I still have one of them with thousands of rounds through it without any issues.
     
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    I've literally never seen,outside of YouTube, a HiPoint fail at all. I've fired older models, newer models in every cal. Available. 9,40,45, even with steel. Could be the people who own them got lucky, but I've never seen one fail.

    However, I'll give you merit, as I can't say whether they were firing ball or Hollow point.
     
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    In my line of work I buy upper end tools with a good tract record, cheap tools that fail cost more do to work stoppages.
    That being said, if you shoot a gun a lot and it is also your self defense weapon I would prefer one that has been proven reliable. If the High Point is such a gun then so be it, but if they need to add more pot metal to achieve that? It makes me question the other components in the firearm:scrutiny:
    I guess if boating the Hi Point could be a suitable back up if you lost your anchor;)
     
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    I used to scoff at Hi-Points myself until I read an interview with the founders of the company. They believe that no one should be without a self defense option, and a lot of people just don't have much money to spend on a firearm. They thought it would be possible to fill the low cost niche by using simple blowback designs that are cheap to manufacture. And they have been successful. I think their carbines in particular are fairly well regarded. They definitely are not trying to produce anything Gucci and they are fine with that. . Just decent firearms that anyone can afford. . God-bless Hi-Point.
     
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    I got a JHP 45 after firing a friend's. It was accurate, reliable, and inexpensive. I already had an RIA 1911, but at the price the Hi-Point was at ($100 used, but barely) I had a hard time saying no. I gave it to my son eventually. He'd show up after shooting it and ask me to clean it.
    For what they were designed for (as mentioned by upptick above) they are a useable low-cost option for home defense. (Not a good carry gun, as the safety is not the best) They are also a good back up or truck gun.
     
  21. oldfortyfiveauto

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    My buddy has a HP in 9mm and their carbine. He’s been bringing them to the range for years without any issues. His Glock on the other is another story. I won’t own a HP or Glock either. In my past life as an engineer we used a number zinc alloys. With good designs they never gave issues. In our products they were much better choice than steel due to corrosion.
     
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    It is when you reach my age.
     
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    joneb writes:

    A Hi-Point, in the hands of someone who has practiced with it, stands about as much chance of failing "when it's needed the most" (pure hyperbole) as pretty much any other gun twice its current price, and maybe any three times its price.

    Truly, if you've shot any gun to where its about to "give out", it needs to be retired from defense duty, anyway.
     
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    HiPoints are a proven design that works reliably. Some don’t like them as a matter of personal preference, just like any firearm.
     
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