Those military surplus days. Top 3?

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  1. valnar

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    I think most here would agree that there was certain time period where military surplus rifles were all the rage and imported into the USA in droves. I believe that time has passed.

    So now with 20/20 hindsight, what are your top 3 milsurp guns?

    Me:
    Swedish m/38
    Swiss K31
    Vz.58 (if it counts). If not, then my 1897 antique Finnish M39 :)
     
  2. jmars

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    Swiss K31
    Yugo M48 Mauser
    M1 Garand

    (hand guns)
    Inglis Hi Power
    Broomhandle Mauser
    Brazilian contract 1917
     
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    That I have owned 1) A 98 Mauser made by FN in 1951 factory chambered in 30-06 2) A Springfield 03A3 also 30-06 3) My current mil-surp a Lee Enfield SMLE Mark111 made in 1916 IN 303 British
     
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  4. Dave DeLaurant

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    The cheap milsurp imports may have ended, but the gene pool has plenty of swimmers that will continue to come around for resale.

    For me the most fun are the M1 Garand, 1903 Springfield and Swiss K31, in no particular order.

    Just got back from the range with my Yugo 98/48 about an hour ago, so that should get an honorable mention too:

    Yugoslav M98-48 zf41.jpg
     
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  5. Kleanbore

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    Swedish M38
    US M1903
    Any good 7X57 Mauser
     
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    With ZF41.......niiiiiice!
     
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    1) Enfields........its funny cuz back then nobody wanted the .410 muskets or Jungle Carbines, but now they command the highest prices.

    2) M1 Carbines

    3) Argentine M1909s- man those things were all immaculate when they came in. My Dad still has a gorgeous one.
     
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  8. Dave DeLaurant

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    Repro, but at least it's finally zeroed!

    Just posted a short YT vid from today:

     
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  9. JDeere

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    US GI WWII surplus firearms or still in high demand and short supply. Prices are up there as well. I have done very well thinning my herd and they go fast at a nice price.
    M1 Garand and 1903 Springfields are my cup of tea.
    GI 1911s follow closely...
     
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  10. Riomouse911

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    I only have 4 different styles of WWII milsurp rifles, so I’ll stick to those (I know it’s to list 3, but my third is a tie):

    1: M-1 Garand
    2: M-1 Carbine
    3(tie): No. 4 Mk I Lee-Enfield
    K98k Mauser

    Stay safe.
     
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  11. BigBlue 94

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    Im not up on imports enough to pick one but there are some id like. A ZB 26 is one that comes to mind. I would love a Garand, Thompson, M1 Carbine, etc too.

    I own a few, a 1956 Romy SKS, a 1943 '03A3 Remington, and a Colt 1917 Army. Also a very finely 50s sporter made from a 1916 Gew 98 and a Yugo M48 from Mitchell's Mausers. I was gonna buy a No 4 Enfield with the 03A3 but someone beat me to it.
     
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    Way too young to have experienced the joys of buying cheap military surplus guns, and since my family before me didn't shoot much if it all, I don't have any hand me downs.

    my choices would be
    1903a3
    M39
    Jungle carbine
     
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  13. jonnyc

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    G43, Vis35 Radom, Occupation BHP, RC Luger, bring-back P38, S&W/Colt 1917, Mosin PU, MAS 49/56, 03A3, plus a few others. Really hard to pick just three.
     
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    As Ian has pointed out on Forgotten Weapons often enough, after around 1970-1980 most militaries adopted rifles with a "fun switch" which will limit (or prevent) their import.

    We've seen some surges here and there. Like when Nepal cleaned out their warehouses of more thna a century of stockpiling every weapon they ever used. Which pumped a bunch of UK firearms out in the market, More recently, and to a much smaller extent, Ethiopia cleaned its warehouse out, too. Which put a bunch of unique arms on the market--if often in "unique" condition.

    Not many places left with big warehouses of semi-auto or bolt action rifles to liquidate on the cheap.

    Brazil is said to have some WWII stock warehoused, but in what condition is unknown. Canada, too has some warehouses of goodies, but is probably unlikely to sell them en masse for political reasons. Some of the Central American nations have interesting surplus--but there is a strong possibility that those are "on book" bu not "on site." Such is life.

    The Russians are rumored to have some huge stockpiles of surplus arms--but, we are unlikely to see any of those anytime soon.
     
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    Probably after the fall of the Soviet Union when they started unloading all their lend-lease stockpiles.

    A mint M1928 Thompson for the equivalent of $500 and I passed on a M1919 and M2 Ma Deuce (both with tripods and accessory kits) for $1k and $2k respectively. Then again, I picked up a LNIB pair of 8mm MG42:s for $420 each. The anti-aircraft Zwillingslafette for them would've set me back another $300 and I didn't have room for that at the time...
     
  16. Vern Humphrey

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    For me?

    The M1903A3, hands down. I have two, one by Remington the other by Smith Corona.
    The M1 Garand. I trained on that rifle, and as an Adviser in '66 and '67 carried one that I "borrowed" from the ARVN.
    M1922 Springfield -- mine is a converted MKII, and in my opinion is as good as the Winchester M52.
     
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    The $300 and less Garands and the $130 carbines of the 80's and 90's, cause America. The less than $100 SKS rifles for something to just use and abuse with ammunition that costed pennies.
     
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  18. ColoradoMinuteMan

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    VZ.58
    FN FAL
    M1 Rifle
     
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  19. Mosin Bubba

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    So my interest in milsurps is mostly technical. I like seeing all the different designs that have been tried throughout time... all the funky stuff that worked or ended up as a dead end. I also like them as blasters/plinkers, cause nothing like blowing the snot out of a milk jug with a 196gr 8mm bullet. That's my criteria. Others may rate milsurps higher on historical significance, or accuracy for target shooting, or collectibility, etc.

    My #1. M1 Carbine - A wood-and-steel 5lb automatic that's still one of a kind today.

    #2. SKS. It's one of the first military rifles to use a sub caliber/intermediate round, and the last to do it while being a total overbuilt brick outhouse. The first half of 20th century military rifles was ruled by Mausers, the second half was flooded by AKs, and the SKS is kind of the crossover point between the two.

    #3. M96 Swede Mauser. I have a soft spot for any Mauser action rifle. The Swede chambers it in a nice, soft-shooting, ballistically efficient caliber, and built it to one of the highest standards of worksmanship.

    Honorable mention to the Enfield family, whose springy cock on close action hasn't been seen before or since.
     
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    I didn't notice the adapter until the second shot. Was wondering for a second......"I didn't see a silencer...." :rofl:

    Turns it into a nice plinker :cool:- but isn't your scope on backwards? :p :rofl:

    Just kidding, Dave. That's a nice rig. :)

    It'll be top 2 for me: Mosins, I only have three left. and a Turk Mauser.
     
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  21. Fishbed77

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    I assume we are talking top-3 surplus rifles that I actually own and aren’t parts kits guns (like my VZ-58 or some of my AKs).

    For me, that would be:

    M1 Garand
    K31
    Lee Enfield No.4 Mk1

    I got into surplus guns a bit too late score great deals on many rifles, but up until recently, there were many good deals to be found on surplus pistols. Some of my favorites include: West German P226 & P228, FN Hi-Powers (Mk II & III), CZ-82, CZ-75B, Bulgarian Makarov PM, Beretta 71, and others.
     
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  22. Speedo66

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    Have an M-1 Carbine and an SKS, enjoy them both.

    Had two Swedes, a ‘96 and a ‘38, sadly , both gone.

    All were $100 or less during that “golden age”.
     
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    I like my M39, No 4 Enfield, and 1903 Springfield.
     
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    In no particular order (bolt-action rifles only):
    Carl Gustav Swede Mauser M96
    US Remington M1 1903-A3
    French MAS-36
     
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    If that were allowed, I'd put my DSA-58 from Steyr parts FAL above the three I mentioned above. But then it's not a bolt-action or technically what I'd call a "milsurp" either, anyhoo, so, forget I mentioned it.
     
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