Thoughts on Lab Radar

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Just placed an order for one because I want to be able to use it in an indoor range.
Especially interested in power consumption and recommendation's on a power bank as I understand they drain batteries. Feedback on performance indoors and outdoors will be appreciated
 
I bought this power bank. Inexpensive and it works fine. I've had it out over multiple range trips without recharging. I also plug my iPhone into it when using the app to control the Labradar.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N6Q8GO9

The Labradar works great, although it may take a bit to get positioning and sensitivity adjusted correctly. I've started to take a few rounds extra just to ensure everything is working properly before serious load development work. Can't speak to indoor use; I've only ever used it outside.
 
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Love the Labradar. Best money I ever spent.

Batteries do run down fast. Bought the power pack ($45) and it was well worth it.

Did use it outside only.
 
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Works great indoors- though the supplied battery pack is not the greatest. I'm actually thinking about getting one of the 30K powerbanks and using that instead.
 
Please keep us posted. I'm curious about them but the price tag (looks to be around $600 or so with extras you need?) puts me off some. Maybe they will come down in time.

Does it pick up other people's shots if shooting on a crowded range?
 
I have used one a fair bit though I don't personally own one (yet). I always used my external 20A-hr USB power bank to power it. It was hit or miss in the indoor ranges I tried it in. Yyou have to watch how its pointed and to not get bad bounces of the floors and ceilings. I could never get it to work in the long range indoor range I had access to. My assumption was steel baffles protecting the roof and/or steel reinforcements in the floor was causing some weird bounces back and the radar would not work correctly. Worked fine in a 25 yard indoor range despite the huge steel trap. Go figure. Outside is was a joy to use.
 
I do 90% of my shooting at a 25 yard indoor range. I’ve never had an issue of picking up another shooter but the way the bench is I sometimes have issues picking up my shots with any handgun with a longer than 6” barrel off of a rest. It’s just because of the bench being so small. Outside with larger bench it picks up every shot with any gun.
Biggest issue I have is forgetting to input the different bullet weights.
If you have any issues with it phone LabRadar in Canada as they helped me with a few minor things I thought I was doing right but not so much.
 
I have one. It does work great when it works. It is 'finicky" in that it has to be carefully aimed at the flight path of the bullet. The radar impulse has to detect - "see" - the bullet in flight. It is quite universal in application in that it doesn't need light to operate (maybe to set up correctly).

Does it pick up someone else's shots? Yes and No. The 'start' signal is usually the report of the firearm. The 'stop' is when the radar impulse bounces off the back of the bullet and returns to the sensor. So, it is possible for another gun to engage the start signal (but that is difficult in practice). It is NOT possible for the beam to hear another gun fire, then switch the beam over and track the other guy's bullet. When no bullet appears in the pre-set field of view, the machine just says 'Unable to detect' or some officialese meaning 'nothing there, boss'.
It is possible and mentioned in the operator's manual to be careful of branches and loose items around the path of the bullet. One may get a reading from a moving branch showing the bullet speed to be two or three times as fast as one wound expect.

Yeah, it does take a bit of set up, not nearly as much as lining up the shooter's position, chronograph screens and target.

Now, mine seems to have gone deaf and I have to figure out what I did wrong. But mine is a personal problem and not a area wide concern.
 
I use an external USB battery pack with mine and it runs all day.

I've only used my LabRadar at my back yard range so I have no experience with interference from other shooters.
 
I'd love to have one of these units, but I have too many unanswered questions. My close-in home range has too much light variability to get repeatable results using sunlight-based units. A the risk of a thread hijack, may I get some feedback on these conditions...

• To be used exclusively on a narrow (~10yd) and short (~40 yd) back yard range. Being in GA, there's a lot of trees and other close-in "background clutter".
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• Range also has a lot of flat, steel plate targets, some hung by chain which would make removal difficult. Are those an issue ?

Thanks in advance.
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I'd love to have one of these units, but I have too many unanswered questions. My close-in home range has too much light variability to get repeatable results using sunlight-based units. A the risk of a thread hijack, may I get some feedback on these conditions...

• To be used exclusively on a narrow (~10yd) and short (~40 yd) back yard range. Being in GA, there's a lot of trees and other close-in "background clutter".
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• I also have a lot of flat, steel plate targets, some hung by chain which would make removal difficult. Are those an issue ?

Thanks in advance.
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Lab Radar would work just fine in that setting.
 
I really like mine, best feature is the ability to chrono while actually practicing, really helpful when getting multiple temps for a ballistic solution. My older Oehler 35P hasn't been out since I got mine. I've also got an external battery pack that lasts multiple range sessions. I'm also a backyard range guy, so no idea on interference from other shooters. I bring a couple extra test rounds to ensure I've got the LabRadar "zero'd" before chrongraphing a string, especially for long tgts. The only issue I've had is being careful positioning it with muzzle breaks!

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My favorite feature of Lab Radar is in addition to the the display or app displaying the bullet velocity at up to five selected distances down range plus and calculated muzzle velocity. If you have an SD card installed in the unit then it will store a data file for each shot. This data contains time, velocity, distance, and signal-to-noise-rations for every 1 milliseconds going down range. This data set is fun to play with and you can use it to calculate the ballistic coefficient for your particular gun/conditions.
 
Thanks for all the feedback, is it true that data can only be retrieved via the memory chip and not through the app. directly to a tablet?
 
With the app is will show you min/max, average, standard deviation etc for each distance set for string, along with that data for each individual shot right on you phone or tablet. The only data you have access directly off the SD card is if you want to look at the time vs X data for each individual shot.
 
Just placed an order for one because I want to be able to use it in an indoor range.
Especially interested in power consumption and recommendation's on a power bank as I understand they drain batteries. Feedback on performance indoors and outdoors will be appreciated
Congratulations! I just looked up the power bank I ordered from Amazon and it’s no longer available. I just got a 20$ power bank that had USB outputs. I usually use the 1A port, it seems to work fine. I did order a right angle USB micro as it seems to plug in better than the USB cable that was supplied with the unit. I’ve never tried batteries in the unit but have read they don’t last too long.
I upgraded the firmware on mine, and have used the free app on an iPhone X and iPad. The app definitely has some flaws, and in my case disconnects every once in awhile. I’ve sent numerous emails to them, but, they don’t seem to want to improve the app. It does work, but marginally. Get an SD card to plug in to the unit so you can easily transfer the data to whatever device you’re keeping records on.
You have to “Aim” the labradar at the target, or the beam won’t pick up the bullet. They have a notch on the top of the unit, but I took a Bic pen, stripped the ink cartridge, and tape that to the notch so it’s a bit more precise. If the unit doesn’t record a shot, this is most likely the problem.
The unit isn’t perfect, but I’ve found it a lot easier to use than my shoot through chrono. It occasionally gives me a very erratic reading, like once it did a 3000+ FPS on a 9mm load. I’ve not been able to pinpoint why, but I still shoot a calibration string at the start of every session with factory ammo. My range did have a metal cable at 50 yards to hang targets on, so maybe this was confusing the unit in some way. Indoors it seemed to work just fine but I was the only one there.
Let us know how you like it! Good luck!

Please keep us posted. I'm curious about them but the price tag (looks to be around $600 or so with extras you need?) puts me off some. Maybe they will come down in time.

Does it pick up other people's shots if shooting on a crowded range?
Sometime around Black Friday it’s usually 50$ off, or so it’s been the past couple of years. This is definitely a buy once cry once event. Sort of like buying a Dillon :)!

Can the data retrieved from the SD card be imported to Excel?
Yes. Each string is in a separate folder and the CSV file can be imported. That’s what I do to get the data into my master spreadsheet. I’m having a senior moment, but, in my case I think I need to transpose the numbers since I want my shot strings in a row, not a column, but that’s easily done in excel.
 
Can the data retrieved from the SD card be imported to Excel?

Yes. The data is saved as a .csv file.

I import the data to Apple's Numbers which requires some fiddling to get the spreadsheet to show properly. The data delimiter used in the file is different than what Numbers accepts so I have to rinse the data file through a character change program.
 
Can the data retrieved from the SD card be imported to Excel?

Yes that's what I do with mine. Each rifle has it's own Excel spreadsheet with multiple tabs for my OCW calculations and chrono data by load.

Below is a picture of my custom long range Labradar aiming device in matching orange:

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Lay the flat against the front and aim down the top.
 
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