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Thoughts on the Striker 12/Street Sweeper?

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by Third_Rail, Nov 19, 2006.

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  1. Third_Rail

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    I know they're NFA items, just in case anyone is unclear on that. ;)

    Now, that aside, what are the pros/cons of this design? I'm unclear on what action it is (semi-auto, pump, what?), how many rounds each drum holds (some say 12, some say 8, some say 10), and what barrel lengths they were/are available in.

    Does anyone here own one? Care to share your feelings/pictures?
     
  2. Carl N. Brown

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    The streetsweeper was a 12 gauge revolver action,
    just like any revolver, just 12 gauge, big and ugly.

    It is on the NFA list as a "destructive device" since
    it is a shotgun without a sporting purpose, just as
    the semi-auto shotgun modeled on the M16 was
    declared a "destructive device." DD classification
    was created by the 1968 Gun Control Act to control
    artillery, artillery shells, rockets, bombs, mortar shells,
    etc. Secretary of the Treasury placed the streetsweeper
    and USA12 on the DD list basicly by fiat. 12 gauge
    shotguns are not what the DD class was created for,
    but we are ruled by the whims of men not by the rule of logic.
     
  3. MCgunner

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    Hmm, does that shotgun built on the AK action have a "sporting purpose"? :rolleyes: For that matter, who chooses a Mossberg 590 to hunt with? I mean, if you're going to hunt, are you going to buy a 500 or a 590?

    Of course, no need to rant on how stupid gun control is, just be preaching to the choir I guess. :banghead:
     
  4. Chris Rhines

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    The Protecta/Striker 12 sights make stock AKM sights seem like Gehmann target apertures. The ergonomics pretty much define crude and sloppy. The trigger is awful. Last but not least, reloading the damn thing takes a loooooong time, 2-3 seconds per shell at a minimum.

    I'd spend my money elsewhere.

    - Chris
     
  5. Third_Rail

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    Hm. Perhaps I'll be able to play with one before buying it - I"ll check with the class 3 dealers around here and in VT.
     
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    Sort of fun to play with, but the unload/reload cycle is a PITA to deal with; after your 12 rounds, you need to push the safety on, swing open the loading gate, pull the trigger to advance the drum one chamber, stroke the ejector rod, repeat the pull trigger/ejector rod sequence another 11 times, then reload.
     
  7. Third_Rail

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    Oh geeze - for some reason I thought it was a detachable drum. What an... interesting reloading system.

    Sort of a use it and toss it if it were ever to be used in combat!
     
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    I think they were operating on the assumption that if you can't solve your "problem" with 12 rounds, you're screwed anyway, and it's time to call in an airstrike. :D
     
  9. Third_Rail

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    Which is more than likely true!!
     
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    Cause it was cheap and scary looking it scared people, for the same reason I'm sure at least one gangsta' type had one.

    I think it's been in a few movies,

    not as cool though as the manville gas gun, that was in dogs of war and a few other flicks, much better made and heavy.

    I believe before the Uzi the precursor to the IDF made in home workshops a similar shotgun that was about as usefull and apparently not well made to boot.

    the street sweeper moniker also more than likely lead to it's demise as the "Antis" could go on that it was named such because it could kill every one within a city block and that challenged youths preffered them for drivebys.

    Also there is a snail type magazine for a pump shotgun by a company that offers a detachable mag and was I believe in the very begining of the movie "Alien Nation" showing a good example of cover vs. concealment
     
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    They were originally made in Rhodesia for farm security. When England gave the country to the terrorists, production was moved to South Africa. Neet weapon, but limited tactical use.
     
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    Shot them both a bunch as a kid and in undergrad. Miserable weapons.

    Never bought one as I considered it a range toy.
     
  13. Joe Demko

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    My dad has one I've shot a bunch. Spend your money elsewhere.
     
  14. Kingson

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    I have a Street Sweeper, It's fun to shoot but that's about it. It's a good toy. Its not realy usefull, but it is fun. What can be more fun then 12 shots in 3 seconds? I don't beleve that you can own one in CT.
     
  15. Third_Rail

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    We'll be moving to VT soon - that's why I'm asking. :)

    I didn't know you had one, though! Why didn't you bring it that time in NH?
     
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    I didn't have it when we went to NH, plus to take it out of state you need to sumit a form to the Gov saying that you are takeing it out of state and they need to approve it. You are more that welcome to come up and shoot it sometime to see what it's like.
     
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    Incredible weapon for close range combat.

    You guys seem to have experience with the Cobray Streetsweeper or South African Striker-12.

    The new Penn Arms Striker-12 uses gas ejection and has a bunch of variants. www.pennarms.com

    Devastating weapon at close range (like home-defense), and also I imagine it would be useful in skeetshooting, I mean it's more reliable and faster ROF than a semi.
     
  18. Third_Rail

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    I've got a communication going with Hans at PennArms - they're quite unwilling to sell to a civilian on a form 4, though I'm hoping to convince him otherwise.

    As for shooting one sometime - I may well take you up on that.
     
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    How "charming". :barf:
     
  20. Third_Rail

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    Yes, quite.... and get this - he insists that there's a DD "license" required for civilians, and that even if I had one he wouldn't sell anyway. As I said, I'm trying to convince him otherwise - since there are other toys they make that I'd love, too!
     
  21. Joe Demko

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    The one my dad has is from Penn Arms. I still think he should spend his money on something else.
     
  22. Third_Rail

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    Joe, who did he buy it through, or did he buy it direct?
     
  23. Joe Demko

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    As it happens, I know Hans and the owners of Penn Arms. They are in a business where they get a lot of scrutiny from the government. They've had several projects get scrapped because of government regulations. They are, understandably, a bit twitchy. It's unlikely that you'll convince them to sell you anything because they are more concerned about military and police sales. Selling you a Striker, from their POV, probably isn't worth the paperwork complications_legal though it may be.

    They spent a lot of time and money, once, taking the gummint to court over the Striker. They lost. Can't blame them for being a bit shy now.
     
  24. Joe Demko

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    He bought it direct as part of the court case I linked above.
     
  25. Third_Rail

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    Ah, okay. Well, I'm still going to try - I like the looks of the products, and I want some. :D

    Can't blame me for trying, though - some of the products are just too unique.
     
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