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THR blocked on US Army computers

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Aikibiker, Mar 4, 2006.

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  1. Aikibiker

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    It has been a while since I was able to visit THR. I have been doing contract security work on a US military installation and stuck with using the Army's internet through the MWR. Their webfilter blocks THR and every other gun website you can think of. I am afraid the modern Army clasifies guns in the same category as porn and gambling.

    I am using a friend's computer at the moment. He has a laptop with his own wireless connection so I will not be able to see this site again until i go home on vacation in a few weeks. I hope everything is going well here and God bless you all.

    To make this firearms related I am issued an M16a2. Playing with it has changed my mind about the AR series and I will be buying an M4gery while on vacation. Who is making a good one these days?
     
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    The Army doesn't - the commercial software that they use does. And remember - most site filterings is less about security and more about conservation of bandwidth than anything else.
     
  3. fantacmet

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    There are several ways around this. Most filtering software can be beat simply by entering in the IP address. If this is not possible then a simple conversion to of the IP address to binary form then entering in the binary form of it is possible. If you would like to know how to convert the IP to binary I would be glad to post it for you. It's really simple, as I had a VERY hard time with it until it was explained in a very simple and straightforward manner then I was like oh ok it is simple. If you'd rather I can pm you this information as well. Which would probably be better so if anyone wants to know how to do it since it's not firearm related but computer related please pm me for the information. Mabe THR would allow me to post a sticky concerning this so people who are blocked from viewing this website simply because it speaks of firearms can still view it.

    Rev. Michael
     
  4. Hacker15E

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    It's blocked at Moody AFB, too.
     
  5. CAPTAIN MIKE

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    Okay....I'll Bite....

    WHY oh WHY fer-cryin-out-loud would the military block access to THR or any other firearm related site? It seems counter-intuitive, counter-productive and a damn shame.
     
  6. Can'thavenuthingood

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    Because civilians run the show. The anti gun type civilians.

    MWR is a money making pork barrel employment machine. If you want something to suffer a slow bleeding death, give it to MWR.

    Any firearms sold on these base's?

    Vick
     
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  7. ctdonath

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    Bring it up to superiors as a business issue. If you're in the business of weapons (and the Army certainly is), surely you should have access to sites that discuss weapons.

    I - as a programmer - would have a fit if my employer cut off access to computer technology discussion sites.
     
  8. Farnham

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    It's blocked at Lackland AFB, too. Along with Rock River Arms, surplusrifle.com, and any other site dealing with firearms. They're all filtered out as "Mature" or "Online Sales". Best Buy is okay, but Rock River Arms is "Online Sales". All forums are blocked as "Chat". :banghead:

    Most of the useful computer boards are blocked as well, thanks to the "Chat" filter.

    I find it kind of amusing until a server does something crazy, and when I Google the error, all the answers are on forums that are blocked by the "Chat" filter. :rolleyes:

    S/F

    Farnham
     
  9. gudel

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    so taxpayers pay tax so that you can dick around on the internet at work? :rolleyes:
     
  10. thumbody

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    I believe even .gov employees get breaks.
     
  11. thumper723

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    Or are stuck with only.mil computers for months on end. I can access THR when I am ashore, but on the boat the SWO's block it.

    That being said, most online sales sites are OK on Navy ships, since many use it to send gifts home.
     
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    Ok I've gotten a rather large response on the binary conversion so, since Rudolf posted the IP address to here, if they block the IP as well, then just try the binary conversion. Because of the response I made a web page specifically for y'all, and tried to put it in simplest terms for those who have no experience whatsoever.
    http://www.geocities.com/redneck_chevy_psychopath/binary.html
    There is the URL. If entering in the binary equivalent doesn't work, then they are blocking by a completely different method and aren't using any filtering software, they are hardcoding the restrictions, and the admin is a jackass.

    Rev. Michael
     
  14. BigRobT

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    Hey, Fantac, if they use the scientific view of the calc built into Windoze, it will do the binary conversion automatically. I used to be able to do that stuff in my head, including octal & hex, but since it's built right into the calc, why not take advantage of it?? Just enter it in decimal, the switch to binary, it's really that simple :what:
    :D

    PS, I don't quite grasp how the binary conversion thing works as an IP address to make it work in IE
     
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    Really? Huh. THR wasn't filtered out on the MWR computers on Camp As Sayliyah, in Qatar.
     
  16. telomerase

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    Soon Skynet will have all of these it needs... then it won't need confused young men anymore.

    It will probably let you read THR in the disposal camps.
     
  17. YellowLab

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    NMCI does not block it.

    The civilains that run the military networks are retards. Low end techie scum that couldn't find a *real* tech job.

    The network where I work is so laggy and broke that getting work done is actually an uncommon occurance.

    EDS has even admitted that its thier problem, but since the gubment won't put up any more money (they bid on a contract) they won't put more man hours into fixing is... its all a configuration issue.
     
  18. Otherguy Overby

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    The US military is anti gun

    Yeah I know it doesn't make sense... Of course "military intelligence" doesn't either. :)

    For those who haven't been in the military here's the truth: They do not want the general troops having access to weapons. Even in a war zone they want to keep them locked up.

    Last I heard they wanted guns locked up in the "green" zone in Bagdad.
     
  19. dm1333

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    I'm in the military and I read THR at work on my lunch breaks. This has nothing to do with the military being "anti gun". What is happening is the Morale, Welfare and Recreation computers where he is have a filter that is blocking porn and unfortunatley also THR. I have been on several larger bases where this has happened but it is not intentional. Usually it can be fixed by talking to the people who maintain the computers.
     
  20. K-Romulus

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    another case here

    I work for a Fed agency, and they have a "De minimus" use policy for personal internet goofing. Certain websites have been banned from access from these work computers presumably because they are not "work related" types of webpages.

    These blocked categories are the usual porn and gambling sites, but also "discussion forums" and anything "weapon/bomb related" except sites "related to the gun control issue." Clear as mud . . . :rolleyes:

    In actual practice, this means that:

    Powerball and the DC lottery sites are banned as "gambling"

    DailyKos is banned as a "discussion forum," but not FreeRepublic or DU, or the WashPost and BalSun forums

    AR15.com, Sigforum, and Glocktalk are banned as "weapon/bomb related," but not THR or Pro-Gun Progressive

    Easton Archery is banned as "Weapon/bomb related" :confused: , but not ArcheryTalk

    Ammoman and CheaperThanDirt are banned as "weapon/bomb related," but not MidwayUSA, Brownells, Sportsmans Guide or Outdoor Marksman

    KeepAndBearArms is banned as "weapon/bomb related," but not the 2d Amendment Foundation, VPC/Brady/CSGV, Tripwire or MCRKBA (for you MD folks), or the various NRA sites.

    If you try to access a banned site, the IT department gets a "red flag," and if you have enough of these flags you get a phone call or email from the IT department, who have to follow up on these hits.

    The flags will show up if, for example, THR members hot-link an image hosted on a banned site like "gunsnet." I recently had to disable my photo preferences here after getting a second phone call from the IT department about repeated flags. When this policy first started a few years back (before they bothered to tell the employees :rolleyes: ), I got a call from the deputy IT guy about my web habits re:Glocktalk, Sigforum, SIGarms, etc. He was cool with my personal political beliefs, he just didn't want to have to deal with all the extra work of chasing down every flag that came up in the system.

    I heard one woman got several really aggressive phone calls from the IT people because she had numerous repeated porn hits. Turns out she was a 60-something, deeply religious secretary, whose hits were caused by some sort of spyware.:rolleyes:
     
  21. mons meg

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    Ahem, how do you know it was a low-life scum civilian? Maybe a low-life soldier or airman set up the filtering software and left in the default settings?

    Signed, your friendly low-life civilian network engineer.
     
  22. U.S.SFC_RET

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    They don't want you surfing these type of sites during work hours. At fort lewis that was the case anyway. The firing line was definitely out but THR was not.
     
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    THR and TFL are both blocked at Fort Hood. However, when in Iraq, I was able to surf both with no problems. Go figure.
     
  24. erik the bold

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    A little help please......how exactly are you supposed to enter the binary conversion?

    209.51.144.70 converts to:

    11010001.110011.10010000.1000110 correct?

    I tried this (http://11010001.110011.10010000.1000110/) in IE and Firefox and got nowhere......
     
  25. Jon Coppenbarger

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    I will not say which army post I work at but I was blocked from a few of them including this site.
    It is a program that is run by someone else that controls what you can access.
    It was explained to me that it is not so much a gun thing but why I was being blocked was it is a chat type of forum.
    I had them remove the block at work from a few sites like this one.
    It was put this way, I do not care what you log onto but if you get caught chatting on a forum during bussiness hours I can not help you any more.

    so while at work I may check in here but will wait tell I get home to post.
     
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