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THR members: your favorite gun shops, again...

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Monkeyleg, Mar 31, 2005.

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  1. Monkeyleg

    Monkeyleg Member

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    As much as I always promise to be brief, it just never turns out that way. Please skim as fast as you can, and give advice when you can.

    Without going into too much boring detail, I started calling shops on my site several weeks ago to re-up their free trial subscriptions. Honestly, I was more than surprised at the number of store owners who paid to renew without hesitation. I was hoping for a 10% renewal rate. It's much higher than that. More like 40% or higher, depending upon how the "call me back next week" calls go.

    But there are store owners who don't see any benefit, and they've briefly laid out their reasons: they don't think that they're going to get any new business from gun owners on the internet (wrong); their little nephew Timmy has created a website for their stores (try to find it); or they just don't want to spend any money on advertising.

    After over nine months of finessing the site for the search engines, I'm right where I've always known--by prior experience--I would be: on the first page. Search for Texas gun shops, Nebraska gun shops, Kimber pistols, Sako rifles...my site is first-page for just about any search term I've worked on.

    Anywho, I've also had a few shop owners cancel on me. Not a big deal, but I don't want to leave holes. My goal for the next year is an average of 20 shops per state.

    So, I'm looking to replace those cancelled shops with ones that are equivalent in service, inventory, etc--or better.

    Thanks to the input of THR members over the last few months, I've been able to get really great shops on my site. Thank you for indulging my questions.

    If any of you have recommendations for shops in the following states, I'd much appreciate it:

    Nebraska (Omaha would be good, as would North Platte, or other western parts of the state).

    Oregon, especially the areas around Portland and Salem.

    Indiana, especially the Indy area. I dropped Don's from my site after he offended gun owners nationwide by endorsing a renewal of the AW ban. He can rot in, well, you get the idea.

    Iowa, especially Bettendorf/Davenport area. Surprisingly, there've been few recommendations for the Des Moine area.

    Kansas. Surely there are more than two good shops in that state.

    Minnesota. I have a half dozen or so shops, but I'm not sure that they're all top-shelf. And I need more.

    Mississippi. Need more.

    Montana. Low-populace state, but there must be more stores with good inventory and service.

    New Hampshire. For cryin' out loud, there's more gun shops in Idaho, from what I can tell!

    Ohio. The state with the sixth-largest number of gun owners. What I have now doesn't reflect that proud tradition.

    Oklahoma. Four stores that see the value in wide internet exposure. The owner of the Firing Pin, thank God, realized that he needed my service when I couldn't even find his store's site by name in the top 800 search results.

    Pennsylvania. One of the top gunowner states. I need to get back to that state and make more calls.

    South Dakota. I'm going to lose probably two shops there. No reason, just the owners don't think they need to advertise, or think that $10 a month ($8.33 per month annually) is more advertising than they need.

    Tennessee. I've picked up a couple of extremely good shops, and have another to add this week, but may lose Top Brass outside of Memphis.

    Texas. I have a fair number of shops on the site, but I have more in California, and that just isn't right.

    Virginia. I don't know that I'll lose any, but the state deserves better representation than what I have now.

    What I've learned over the past year is that the shops who understand the service/selection/promotion combination of factors don't argue with me. And, frankly, I've run out of patience with those who don't understand.

    As my friend here in Milwaukee so bluntly puts it: "Dick, you should send an email to every store owner on your site, with a drawing of a dead, decaying dinosaur. Then ask, 'Is this you?'"

    I'm looking for top-quality shops whose owners "get it."

    Any suggestions are much appreciated.
     
  2. Control Group

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    Monkeyleg, wish I could help, but you've got my area covered pretty well, for obvious reasons. ;)

    Anyway, I don't know if testimonials would help, but if you want, I'd be more than happy to tell anyone that I found both the Shooter's Shop and Fletcher Arms via your web site, and both have gotten business from me as a direct result, and will continue to do so.

    Gunshopfinder.com is a great resource, and I hope it continues to grow for you.
     
  3. Werewolf

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    I use a kitchen table FFL for most of my purchases or just order from Midway USA or Brownells.

    If I've just gotta have something right now then I go to Outdoor America Store ph 405-789-0051 . They've got a huge selection and maybe the best prices in OK (I've talked to customers from all over the state in there).
     
  4. EghtySx

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    Oh my. Gotta see if I can help ya there.

    And, FWIW, I think your site is great. Nice set-up. Looks great. Easy to use.
     
  5. JackShandy

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    Two more for North Carolina...

    Handgunners (Burlington, NC)

    4325 South NC 49
    Burlington, NC 27215
    Phone: (336) 570-1015

    A bit on the small side, but they have a nice little indoor range.

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    Mace Sports (Mebane, NC)
    Used to be 'The Gun Room'.

    6921 Industrial Dr.
    Mebane, NC 27302
    919-563-4070

    Not much to the website, but the store is GREAT!
     
  6. txgho1911

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    No access to the site from work.

    If it's not there.
    Bluffton Gun Shop
    Barney WWWWW
    260-824-5xxx
    NW Indiana

    Found an ugly black rifle there just yesterday I just had to have. I got delayed. His prices might go up if you add him to a National DB with AWB in some markets.
    They had 3 or 4 bushys next to the HBAR I wanted. I plugged THR with the owner so he may visit here sometime.

    Few more mentions in this thread.
    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=132394
     
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    The back of a nondescript van down by the river. heh heh. :D
     
  8. sturmruger

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    Here are two that might be helpful to add up here in NW WI.


    H&H guns
    Prescott, WI
    715-262-5024


    St Croix Outpost
    Hudson, WI
    715-386-9868
     
  9. Monkeyleg

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    Grampster, I'm having a hard time picturing you in baggy pants and baseball cap worn sideways buying a Lorcin. ;)
     
  10. jsalcedo

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    In San Antonio

    Powderhorn Clean friendly and knowledgable

    Don's guns great gunsmith ok prices small shop
     
  11. saddlebum

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    mustang pawn& gun, mustang okla. 405 376 3833
     
  12. White Horseradish

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    I know of three shops nearby that you don't have listed

    Frontiersman Sports
    6925 W Hwy 12 I-394
    Minneapolis, MN
    (952) 544-3775

    Bill's Gun Shop and Range
    www.billsgs.com

    Armored Fire Gun Shop & Range
    3621 88th Ave NE
    Circle Pines,
    (763) 792-4867

    However, Armored Fire's service ain't the greatest.

    There is also FAC, but I will not ever recommend that place to anyone. They have atrocious service, rude staff and a sign by the front door that says "No personal firearms allowed".
     
  13. JoeHatley

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    The Bullethole in Omaha www.thebh.com

    Joe
     
  14. 41mag

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    I'm still suprised that On Target(K-zoo),Bobs(Hastings),& Silver Bullet(Wyoming) have'nt hopped on your wagon.
     
  15. Otisimo

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    Lou's Police Supply
    Hialeah

    Great service, great people, great prices.

    I always feel like I'm walking into a friends house even though I'm not a huge regular.
     
  16. Zackmeister

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    Central Texas.

    McBride's Guns. I think they may be the biggest in Texas. Great selection and service isn't bad.

    http://www.mcbridesguns.com/

    2915 San Gabriel
    (30th at North Lamar)
    Austin, TX 78705
     
  17. PATH

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    Master Class Shooters Supply, Inc.
    Indoor Range*Store
    890 Route 17M
    Monroe, NY 10950
    845-774-GUNS
    (4867)

    Dennis Serpi- Proprietor

    Great place. Knowledgeable staff and they are very friendly and helpful.
    Well worth a trip.
     
  18. vmi93

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    A few from western VA

    Here are a few from the Roanoke, VA area.

    Bryansteen's Guns
    Peters Creek Road
    Roanoke

    Roanoke Firearms
    Cove Road
    Roanoke

    Trader Jerry's II
    Salem

    Good luck.
     
  19. jamz

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    You've got my favorite on there, Four Season's guns, but these guys are not:

    http://www.collectorsguns.com/CCG_Links.html

    not sure if you've contacted them or not. I might be going in there today, I'll give you a plug if I can.


    -James
     
  20. trbon8r

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    None of them here in CA.

    Best would have been B&B Sales in North Hollywood circa late '80s before all the gun ban nonsense.

    Ben
     
  21. Chut1st

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    I notice Guns and Ammo in Memphis, TN listed. I can second that motion. They have a great selection and pretty friendly help.

    In Henderson, TN, Robertson's has been in business as long as I can remember, Good selection of used guns.

    Robertson's Jewelry & Firearms
    117 Front St,
    Henderson, TN 38340
    (731) 989-7641

    Saving the best for last. Mike's Class III in Jackson, TN. As you would guess, a class 3 dealer, nice folks to deal with and a big supporter of Friends of NRA:

    Mike's Class III
    15 D Street
    Jackson, TN 38301
    (731) 422-3830
     
  22. spacemanspiff

    spacemanspiff Senior Member

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    actually monkeyleg, i can see gramps doing that. he'd look kinda like the guy that runs a mattress ranch up here.

    one of his commercial spots had him wearing a sideways cap, flashing homemade gang signs, and doing other insane hip-hop moves. it was really disturbing.
     
  23. txgho1911

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    Ok here's my collection of buissnes cards and recipts

    Tomlinson's Shooting Supplies
    Churubusco, IN
    260-693-2830

    Plainfield Shooting Supplies
    Plainfield, IN
    317-839-6095

    Gowe's Gun Shop
    Columbus, IN
    812-342-6079

    Popguns Firearms Trading Post (Family Indoor Shooting Range)
    Indianapolis, IN
    317-897-8660

    Wanamaker Guns
    Indianapolis, IN
    317-862-4867

    H&H Firearms Inc. (indoor range)
    Fort Wayne
    260-483-9135

    500 Guns
    Indianapolis, IN
    317-631-6500

    Bradis Inc.
    Camby, IN
    317-856-8880

    Thats it. Thats all I got and I know there is one on the HWY in Warsaw In with a big stock of longarms.
     
  24. Monkeyleg

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    Thanks for the replies, everyone. Please keep them coming.

    A couple of the shops mentioned are ones that I contacted a long time ago, and either got a "no" for an answer or "call me back."

    Chut1st, the manager at Guns and Ammo really liked the idea, and presented it to the owners. When I called back, he was a bit apologetic, and explained that the owners don't like computers, or anything invented after 1955. His words, not mine.

    It's been a weird week for calling. I've had two shops I thought would never, ever pay to renew (a little one-man place in AZ, and another in NE) pay for a full year.

    Then I had the owner of what I suspect is one of the larger TX shops tell me that he allocates all of his advertising dollars in December, and doesn't budget another dime after that, but he'd keep an eye on response from the site. In essence, he expects me to keep him on the site for free (he's already been on there for free for something like eight months) until December, at which time he'll decide if $10 a month will break his bank account.

    Ah, well. It was my idea to start this site, and I knew I'd encounter some jerks along the way.
     
  25. txgho1911

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    Maybe a few selling points would be apropriate to sell the site.

    Maybe a few selling points would be apropriate to sell the site.

    When I travel on buissnes I may keep my eye out for what other shops have in stock. I may not ever know of some shops as they may be difficult to find through some traditional search methods. I just got a Colt HBAR from a shop more than 2 hours from my house. I visited 4 different shops in 3 days over 2,000 miles of driving in one week.
     
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