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THR Remington 1858 Club

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Shoot The Moon, Jan 8, 2011.

  1. Busyhands94

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    on tuesday i will finally be able to join! hehe! how awesome!
     
  2. YumaKid

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    Legionnaire; Welcome to the "shortie" club! Bought my 5-1/2" several months ago, still trying to get it broken in and begin some serious load development. It's 7-1/2" 'older brother' likes right around 29 gr of Pyrodex behind an 0.454" ball; but I haven't shot the new one enough to let the lockwork to settle in just yet - too many other irons (including an S.A.L. Sqdrn) in the fire.
    Little guy sure balances nicely with the shorter barrel; and I don't feel like I'm trying to pull a '57 Ford F100 axle shaft out of the holster.
     
  3. mb3

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    Just got my Pieta 1858 Reminton last week. First thing I had to do was sand off the redish colored stain on the grips. I cleaned them up, oiled with True Tung Oil, and found some very nice walnut grips hidden beneath. Took her out shooting today with .454 ball, lubed felt wad, Reminton #11 caps, and 25/28 gr of 777. Shot nice tight groups at 15 yards pretty much point of aim.

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  4. 45-70 Ranger

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    Ya'll gonna boot me out?

    Due to many issues with my Pietta '58 that simply drove me crazy, I sold it and the spare cylinder and returned to my Colts. The earlier Remingtons I had were fine old Lymans and they were great. The Pietta, poorly fit parts and shot lousy.

    I am going to get a Uberti navy as soon as I can scare up the bucks. Just no more Pietta's thank you very much.

    So am I gonna get kicked outta the club?

    Wade
     
  5. mykeal

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    Shhh. Just lay low until your new Uberti arrives. Nobody will know.
     
  6. kBob

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    As a non member I come with hat in hand and ask a question.

    SOmetimes I see 1858 types with the grip bolsters very near the butt and othes not quite half way up it. Are these different models such as some are "Beals', some 1858, and some 1863? or are this one way of telling a .35 navy from a .44 Army? Or are these different manufacturers and if so who does what?

    GOsh that was more than one question, I need more hats!

    -kBob
     
  7. kBob

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    MadMike,

    Have not been on Baen board for some years now but obviously they are still well armed. Is that a Colt 1917 with the pretty grips? SHowed my daughter the old photo of your daughter with the pink AR and your bayonet this past week and then noticed your post here so "Hey."

    -kBob
     
  8. Red October

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    Count me in the club, too. My first BP pistol was this one.

    Apologies to the traditionalists - mine is stainless. I wanted my first one to be as low maintenance as possible.
    That was only the beginning, though.
     

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  9. Busyhands94

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    alright, i FINALLY got one today, a few hours ago, in the mail. i will post proof that i have it as soon as i can get a working camera. its a brass framed .44 pietta Remington, very nice gun. this gun is big and it feels great in my hand!
     
  10. Legionnaire
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    Got to the range with the new 5-1/2" 1858 Pietta this morning. She is sweet! Likes CCI #11 caps better than #10s. Here are cylinders 5 and 6, 12 shots, 15 yards, one hand, unsupported (sorry for the crappy cell phone pic). 25 grains Goex FFFg, lubed wad, and .454 swaged ball. The marks at the top of the paper and just left of the target circle are wads that marked but didn't penetrate the target. Not too bad for not being fully broken in yet!

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    And just so you don't forget what she looks like ... :D

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  11. junkman_01

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    Good shooting! You can be proud. :D
     
  12. mykeal

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    If there is a difference in location of the grip screw bolsters, it's between manufacturers rather than Beals vs 1858 vs 1863 or .44 vs .36. I've not noticed a significant difference myself.
     
  13. Busyhands94

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  14. junkman_01

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    Levi,
    Here's how you should really post your picture....

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    Nice, Levi; she's a beauty!
     
  16. brushhippie

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    Just got this (and a Walker), REALLY like this pistol, not a huge fan of engraving but like the colors....not sure why. DSCF0054.jpg
     
  17. Brayhaven

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    I bought a 58 Hege Uberti 36 cal from a friend in Germany, thinking I'd shoot it in Friendship. Great shooting gun. I shot a big ragged hole @ 20 yds with the first cylinder offhand. But @ 5" high. so I tig welded some onto the front sight & it shoots to point of aim now. That said, I decided to try to stick to my single shots, percssion & flint, traditional & open class, and will probably sell this Uberti, if anyone wants one, PM me for pics. Just too many pistols, & loading the revolvers was a PITA for me.. Too old to learn new tricks I reckon.

    Greg
     
  18. junkman_01

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    Just what is a 58 Hege? Please post pictures.
     
  19. arcticap

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    Hege is the name of a very well known German gun distributor. It's said that their guns cost a little more because they're choice quality.

    http://waffen-hege.de/
     
  20. Brayhaven

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    That was my understanding too. Could be marketing hype? I think it's just a Uberti made for the Hege distributor. But the ubertis are excellent guns, whether or not they're "selected" :) I'll try to get a picture & post it if I can figure out how. But, it looks just like a 58 Uberti 36 steel frame. Has original box, but no accessories.
    Greg
     
  21. Busyhands94

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    by the way, i had a pretty cool idea not too long ago, what if i were to take a Remington 1863 pocket, remove the spur trigger guard, re-shape the trigger, and make a nice solid brass trigger guard instead. so the result could be very much like a scaled down .31 caliber 1858 Remington! now that would be great! that would be cool with a conversion cylinder! I'd like that! okay, consider that on my project list. i just need to get down to buying another Remmy. and we all know I'm going to probably buy one sooner or later.
     
  22. Captain*kirk

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    Holy crap, Hippie...a Rattlesnake!
    I'd have to think long & hard about firing that one!
     
  23. Captain*kirk

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    Now I did it...

    Yep, I've been bad. Real bad. First I talked my son into buying this Lyman Navy Remmy, (bottom) then I had to out-do him by getting Shorty.(middle)

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  24. gclefton

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    These should allow me membership. One wasn't enough.

    The upper one is a Lyman and the lower one is by E.N. Santa Barbara:

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  25. brushhippie

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    Yes Captain K I thought about it long and hard.....but Im not a collector Im a shooter. It shoots as good as it looks and it is loaded and ready, right now!
     

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