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Thread Busters?....What's the deal?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by sonny, Jan 1, 2003.

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  1. sonny

    sonny Member

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    I hope everyone can appreciate what I am trying to do by posting this question ...I am almost possitive that I will be leaving myself open for critical and negative replies bit I kinda want to get something off my chest.

    I have been a long time firearm enthusiast and a some what long time lurker and member of many firearm forums.Let's face it ,we don't really know each other for the most part,but I sure am glad that these forums exist and I can't begin to tell you how much I have learned.

    Here's my problem .....a small problem....a problem that will ultimately not effect me in any way other than the fact that I need to satisfy my curiosity on the subject.

    What are some of the reasons that people post and respond to threads?......in my case generally to get or give info or to share or ask others about their experiences with a company or product.Do you agree?
    Then come the other reasons .....I guess?...to be part of a club or family type thing....Great!...But like in all families there are different personalities and age groups.......I can't begin to list the different types.

    What I can't understand is why certain forumites (CHOOSE) to ignore the basic premise of a post,I often read responses that are a clear attempt to undermine a persons attempt at asking a simple question.Often their way of asking is a little off the wall (I have been guilty of that myself)...but all the same it is usually pretty clear what the person is asking....I can't imagine why some feel that is nessasary to complicate this.

    The classic example is......I WANT A NEW .45 AND AFTER MONTHS OF HANDLING,SHOOTING AND PRICING I HAVE DECIDED ON THE HK OR SIG .......And the response ......GET A GLOCK.

    All right.....sometimes it's humorous but sometimes it almost seems to get personal......it seems to me that it is important for some forumites to "show off" and try to make an ass out of somebody ......Well it's a free country and I am 100% against moderators that baby sit and over officiate a fair fight, but I wonder .....Why is it so important to some to behave this way?.....do you need approval from complete strangers that much?........if you ask me it's kinda sad.

    I suspect this sort of behavior will always exist and I am fortunate enough to be the type that doesn't really give a @#$% what others think of me.

    But I remain facinated by people that need to increase their # of posts by any means neccesary.

    I would like to hear from others who find this sort of behavior annoying and like I said before I am 100% against censoring these people but I hope THE HIGH ROAD will be in the forefront when it comes to discouraging (not censoring) this stuff.

    Does anyone agree?
     
  2. Mike Irwin

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    I think the best phrase to describe all of this is...

    Opinions are excretory orifices (wow! I like that vulgarity filter!)

    Everyone has one. Whether you want to hear it or not.
     
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  3. Redlg155

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    Some folks seem to have two. :D

    My personal pet peeve is when someone attempts to undermine a sale on the "for sale" forums. If you don't want to purchase the weapon because you think the price is too high... fine, then don't. If you think something is illegal about the potential purchase, take it to PM or notify a moderator.

    It just irks me to see a long winded discussion on whether or not someone can or should sell an item. Either it's legal and can be sold or illegal and should be retracted.

    Kinda reminds me of a certain Sig guy. :D

    Good Shooting
    RED
     
  4. faustulus

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    I fail to see how "get a glock" is a personal attack or how it undermines the intent of the post. Maybe I am misunderstanding the question. I don't really think it is a good idea to try to discern the intent of the poster, he could be serious or he could be funny, that is decided by the reader.
    I usally figure they are being funny, in which case humor is always appreciated or presenting an alternative I haven't considered, again always appreciated.
    Just ignore them if you find them annoying that is usually the best solution.
     
  5. pax

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    Sonny,

    If that's true, why'd you need the rant?

    pax

    Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
     
  6. Schuey2002

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    Mike is right. :)
     
  7. El Tejon

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    Maybe I'm just not as sensitive. It's just the Errornet, but since when did an opinion become a personal attack?

    O.K., "get a Glock." Guy's had his say. Fine. Move on.
     
  8. sonny

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    ...................................GET A GLOCK...........................................

    Not a personal "attack"....but a subtle form of assuming that the buyer "has not done his or her research".....on their .45 choice even when the poster makes it clear as day that they are not for whatever reason interested in another weapon.

    Often I think it is fine to suggest another weapon...when the poster seems to be open for suggestion....but why complicate a simle question.

    I want black or white......green?.....I just don't think that kind of response is nessesary.....but.....whatever :confused:
     
  9. Betty

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    "Fair fight" - should be "fair and civil discussion or debate". Moderators step in when civil discussions have turned into online fights.

    Precisely, that kind of behavior will always be around, from people who can't answer a poster's questions, to people who can't control their language. :scrutiny:

    The staff at the High Road step in when threads do not meet forum rules. All members agree to abide by the forum rules when registering, and breaching forum rules qualifies as Breach of Contract, and those members are either warned or banned. Not answering a person's question can be annoying, but not bannable or really even warnable, unless it breaches forum rules.
     
  10. Gewehr98

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    Problem is...

    The guy says "Get a Glock", in response to a message thread that asks "What all-steel, non-polymer, non-Austrian designed, non-safe action trigger semiauto pistol should I buy?" :D
     
  11. Blackhawk

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    Agree.
    Surely you've been in informal discussions among several people who don't know one another all that intimately. The discussions seldom stay either serioius or on topic. Suddenly somebody will ask, "How'd we get to talking about this when we started talking about that?" That's just the way people are.

    Even FORMAL business meetings need somebody to keep everybody on topic. I don't think there's any malevolent intent to hijack threads, but it happens very predictably.
    It's annoying when you're not going OT and when you're truly interested in the original point. However, as a business leader I greatly admired mentored me "If something can't be said on one piece of paper, you're not ready to say it." He hated rambling memos. The point? There's rarely a thread topic that doesn't get adequately addressed within relatively few responses. Then it's time for playing, or so it seems.

    THR, and TFL before it, benefit greatly from really good moderators who play the role of keeping the threads relevant to the purpose of the forum, and that's not always the purpose of individual threads.

    I appreciate the opportunity to simply cease reading threads that no longer interest me. It helps keep me from getting uptight about the irrelevant crud that inevitibly shows up if they drag on long enough. I'm often sad for the moderators who don't really have that unfettered opportunity. Can you imagine having the obligation to read everything that gets posted? :what:

    Bottom line: Lighten up and enjoy what you can while you can. :D
     
  12. MLH

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    You will also find

    That some people just never grow up. They have a little knowledge and want to make it look like they are God's gift to the common man. Best not to take the bait or just treat it as humor and look for a more intelligent answer to come along, which it will probably do on the next post if your lucky. Many smart folks on this board that will help you if you give them the chance. It does'nt take long for you to figure out which ones are smart and which are smart-@#$%&. I believe that you will find that this forum is going to be the most civilized on the net and the mods will let good conversation go on as long as we stay civil.;)
     
  13. Redlg155

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    Sounds like the FBI HRT weapon specs when they went looking for a new handgun.:D

    Good Shooting
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  14. tomkatz

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    If I see that a post has been answered sufficiently, I stay out, if opinions are asked for and I have one, I sometimes wade on in, If nobody has answered a particular post and I have an answer I do so, I think sometimes when someone says "get a glock" they are trying to be a little humorous, nothing wrong with that, anyway I see what you mean, but as long as everyone keeps it civil what is the harm?....tom
     
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  15. sonny

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    Pax,
    To see if this is an issue with others obviously,when I say I don't give a @#$% what others think of ME it does not nessesarely mean that I am not interested in how common my opinion is.
     
  16. Betty

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    Well, gosh Blackhawk! At 427 posts, aren't YOU already doing that? :D
     
  17. pax

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    Runt, Blackhawk's not just reading it all -- he's writing most of it!

    :neener:

    pax

    If you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of other people. -- Bobby Slayton
     
  18. 2dogs

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    Who wants a Glock? I don't want any Glock.






    What?






    :neener:
     
  19. Betty

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    Hey, how does everybody like Oleg's new word filter? :p
     
  20. Gewehr98

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    Naw, Runt, there's still a few threads...

    that don't have a Blackhawk posting in them. Precious few. :D
     
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  21. sonny

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    I've been moderated!

    Pax,
    To see if this is an issue with others obviously,when I say I don't give a @#$% what others think of ME it does not nessesarely mean that I am not interested in how common my opinion is.

    :D

    Edited by Preacherman to add: Now you've been un-moderated! :D
     
  22. Betty

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    sonny,
    Couldn't you just settle for "poo" or "excrement" or leave it out entirely?
     
  23. sonny

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    Poo will do in the future.
     
  24. Redlg155

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    Since I see the demise of this thread somewhere in the near future I have but one last thing to say..


    Sonny...GET A GLOCK!:D

    Good Shooting
    RED
     
  25. trapshooter

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    What's a glock?;) :evil:
     
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