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Discussion in 'Legal' started by Edmond, Aug 4, 2004.

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  1. Edmond

    Edmond Member

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    I was just wondering how your state is on tickets. I know someone who has gotten 6-7 tickets in the last 3 years with 2-3 of them being for speeding. He has been bragging about how he's "never been convicted" because the cop never showed up in court.

    My question is: don't those tickets still show up on your records even though you weren't "convicted?"
     
  2. UberPhLuBB

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    If you don't pay a ticket after a certain period of time (6 months?), the court will issue a warrant for your arrest. While they probably won't come to your home to arrest you, if you get pulled over again, when the officer runs your information the warrent will show up and you will be arrested.

    No offense to you, but your friend is a fool in more ways than one. He's a fool for flaunting his sucesses in front of the law. He's a fool for not paying his tickets (I doubt someone like that would go to court for all of his tickets, or pay for the ones he didn't go to court for). He's a fool for speeding so often in the first place.

    I bet he drives a truck too, right? Big bad truck, can't touch him in his truck. No turn signals, he takes whatever lane he wants when he wants.

    Sorry, but I'm sick of those kinds of people. :fire: Every state should enforce a 3 strikes law for traffic violations. Nobody makes 3 mistakes on accident. 3 tickets, paid or not, should earn you jail time.
     
  3. JPL

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    You can contest tickets.

    If you show up in traffic court, and the cop doesn't, a lot of judges will toss the ticket against you.

    If you sign the form and pay the ticket (which your friend apparently never does) you affirm that you were doing what the cop said you were.

    I've gotten one speeding ticket in the last 15 years, and I got it tossed.
     
  4. El Tejon

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    Edmond, they may show up on your certified driving record (CDR), but if no conviction, then they will not count toward any administrative or judicial consequences.

    Arrest/cite me all you want, just don't convict me!:D
     
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    In ok, the day you do not appear for court, a Benach Warrant is issued for your arrest. This is normally a municipal warrant, enforceable only by the city in which issued that warrant. Only that citys officers can arrest you for that warrant.
     
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    Amen, brother. Describes half the morons on the road around Oregon.
     
  7. Edmond

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    I'm not sure what they do if you don't pay the ticket. In my years of driving; I've only been cited once for not wearing a seatbelt. He's going to get nailed one day; and it's going to be bad because he's a very aggressive driver.

    Yes, he is a fool. No, he doesn't drive a truck; he drives a 4 cylinder Escort. Everytime I ride with him in that car; he accelerates like crazy. Like he's trying to prove something to me. Being that I drive a Corvette; I don't get impressed.
     
  8. Matthew Courtney

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    Have you ever heard of due process?
     
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    Hmm... I drive a "big bad truck." Its an F-250. I use it for my business because for the life of me I never could figure out how to put 4000 pounds of steel in the trunk of my wifes Honda. I also havent had a moving violation since 1991.... but thanks for the stereotypes! Keep them coming! :D
     
  10. Edmond

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    Okay, I'll keep them coming. Do you also have a shotgun rack in that thing too?:D
     
  11. R.H. Lee

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    Don't know whether it's true or not, but I heard there is a country where cops carry paper punchers, and will punch a hole in your driver's license for a traffic violation. Get too many, and you don't have a license anymore!!
     
  12. UberPhLuBB

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    If he drives a small car and acts like that, then he's just immature. He'll grow out of it, hopefully before he kills someone or wrecks some property. How old is he? 17?

    You're not the aggressive type, so the stereotype doesn't apply to you unless you never use turn signals. =)

    In addition, you don't live in California, where all the (insert explative of choice)'s live. People drive SO poorly here, that I literally am shocked when I see a pickup, SUV or other truck (excluding big rigs, which are some of the best drivers on the road) actually USE a turn signal. I clap for them in my car. "Sweet jesus, there goes a saint!" I say. People are TERRIBLE drivers in California, and the trucks are the worst of the worst.

    In my experiance, there is no rhythm to the world. Jerks get off with warning, legitimate people end up with citations. Murderers are allowed to continue murdering, people sentenced to life in prison get out of prison. It's random. Some people, who should be institutionalized for their lack of driving skills, will never go to jail. Some people, who take every precaution when driving slip up once and end up with a ticket. Sure, the guy could end up getting his just rewards. But I wouldn't count on it, the world is too unfair. Instead, I have to run the risk of said jerk ramming my car trying to take a lane without warning.
     
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    Oh, hell no.
     
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    is that 3 tickets EVER?

    man, that would suck. I got a ticket for speeding when I was 18, I got another one when I was 22 for a weather related accident, and I just got a ticket for having a tail light out. I'm 25, not a criminal, but you think I should be in jail?

    wow. that's um, not cool.
     
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    Well it doesn't matter because it'll never happen, but I meant 3 tickets in a given time period, say 1 year.
     
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    What did you do to piss that cop off? Where I work, we never write equipment citations, just warnings.
     
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    I did absolutely nothing to piss him off. He's just a jerk. (it's been verified through his coworkers, not many of them like him)

    it was late at night, so I'm sure it started as a pretextual stop, but he must have just been bored. lucky me, eh?
     
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    Uh, for due process to apply, the defendent actually has to show for court. Not appearing is pretty much considered a waiver and a bench warrant will follow. He also could run into some issues when he goes to renew his license.
     
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    What are those? ;)
     
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    Seems like nobody actually read what was written! :)

    The cop never showed up in court. Hence, the case is dismissed for lack of prosecution. He's very lucky, but his luck will run out one day.

    No. They're dismissed. Tickets show up on your record if you're convicted or if you "admit guilt" by paying the fine. Being given a ticket is sort of like being arrested for a "real" offense. Just because you're arrested on a robbery charge doesn't mean it automatically goes on your record... there are a few other steps that have to be gone through first :) Infractions are the same.

    Now, the next question is, why is it that if I don't show up to traffic court, I get a bench warrant, but if the officer doesn't show up, oh well, end of story...
     
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    Here in California, you can go to traffic school for a moving violation (once every 18 months, I think) instead of paying a fine. This keeps the ticket off your record. The advantage is that your insurance rate doesn't go up.
     
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    Angry received 7 tickets in one traffic stop.:D
     
  23. Edmond

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    No, he's not 17. He's 24.:(
     
  24. sendec

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    Arrests and convictions are both on your so-called permanent record. They all show up.
     
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    Regarding big trucks and turn-signals

    Several people have mentioned how big trucks often don't use their turnsignals. This is most especailly true in and around LA.

    In and near big cities, if a truck driver signals a lane change, other drivers will often speed up so they won't be behind the truck and thus block his lane change. It doesn't take much of this before a trucker might find it easier to make lane changes without a signal when there's an open space to switch lanes into.

    'tis not a perfect world, eh?
     
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