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Time to buy and handgun

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Superfly3176, Aug 17, 2008.

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  1. Superfly3176

    Superfly3176 Member

    Mar 24, 2006
    I turned 21 recently and really want to buy and handgun. I do not want a revolver at all. I will most likely get a concealed carry, but the gun will be more for fun, and home defense.

    So I was thinking. Sig P229, chambered for .357 SIG. Any opinions?
  2. Loomis

    Loomis member

    Aug 10, 2008
    @ 21, I'd suggest getting something more affordable. Ammo is expensive. The more you spend on a gun, the less you have to spend on ammo.

    If you are really into sigs, there is a deal on right now for sig P5 in 9mm. The P5 is a german police gun that is similar to a sig 225, which is no longer made. They are used cop guns on sale for 299 bucks american.

    Make that a sig P6. My bad.
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2008
  3. SCKimberFan

    SCKimberFan Member

    Mar 23, 2008
    South of the Mason-Dixon Line
    Or a CZ75 (Compact works well for CCW). Priced ok too.
  4. JDGray

    JDGray Member

    Sep 16, 2005
    SW MI.
    The "Fun" goes away buying .357 Sig ammo:D The 229 is a fine weapon, but I'd say get it in 9mm.
  5. Cowboy2

    Cowboy2 Member

    Dec 16, 2007
    If I were buying my first handgun, it wouldn't be a .357Sig. Its relatively expensive to shoot, and ammo prices aren't going down anytime soon. If I were buying a Sig, I'd get it in 9mm or .40S&W, leaning more towards 9mm.
  6. schmeky

    schmeky Member

    Mar 17, 2006
    West Monroe, Louisiana

    You're getting some good advice. Don't confuse power (.357 Sig) with good shot placement. The 9mm is much cheaper to shoot, has less muzzle blast and recoil, and with the assortment of 9mm self defense loads, is no slouch.

    I think it's critical you get good firearms instruction in safety, handling, sight alignment, trigger control, etc. It's kinda' like golf, if you develop bad habits from the beginning, it's much harder to correct them later on.

    For a first gun, 9mm is the way to go. Let us know what you get.
  7. Rmart30

    Rmart30 Member

    Nov 10, 2007
    get a nice 22 auto for a first gun..... shoot the heck out of it with its super cheap ammo, and learn alllllllll the basics, then start looking for something bigger.
  8. thegoodfight

    thegoodfight member

    May 30, 2008
    Les Baer or Wilson combat would be my choice.
  9. Happiness Is A Warm Gun

    Happiness Is A Warm Gun Member

    Jul 8, 2008
    Chesapeake, Virginia
    Look at ammo prices. In terms of total cost of the gun the actual gun is a small fraction.

    .357 sig ammo isn't cheap. Most places have it for $0.35-$0.40 per round.

    9mm on the other hand is about half the cost and .40 S&W isn't much more.

    $500 handgun + 10k .357 sig rounds @ 0.35ea = $4,000. The gun is only small % of the total cost of ownership.

    Another way to look at it is for about the same amount of money you could either buy a sig and 10K rounds or a better 9mm and 15K rounds. which will be more effective?
  10. Blarelli

    Blarelli Member

    Sep 22, 2007
    Yeah, .357 sig isn't one of those 'for fun' rounds unless you have a bunch of extra cash laying around. The sig, however, is an excellent choice. Just switch that .357 sig into a 9mm. If you feel like you want some extra power for carrying or whatever, get some +p rounds.
  11. Superfly3176

    Superfly3176 Member

    Mar 24, 2006
    Let me say this, this is nowhere near my first gun fired or owned. But it will be my first handgun. Yes, I have been through firearms training too.

    I also see the point on the ammo. Thanks for the input.

    The other gun that I've had my eye on has been the Springfield XD-M in .40 S&W. Any opinions on this gun?
  12. varoadking

    varoadking Member

    Jun 22, 2003
    Get a Glock 22 then. You will be much happier in the long run...

    BTW, .40S&W costs the same as .357SiG these days. A Glock 17 (9mm) would be a better choice given that fact.

  13. BlindJustice

    BlindJustice Member

    Jul 26, 2007
    Pullman, WA
    Brush up on your english....

    It's A Handgun

    I hear some people buy .357 Sig and within two
    weeks buy a .40 S&W barrel.

    I'm sure you've already got a bunch of advice
    about Training, and .22 LR to learn on grasshopper,
    it's a martial art of deadly consequence.

    Still fun, though, welcome.

  14. basicblur

    basicblur Member

    Apr 2, 2003
    As an owner of a P229R in 357 SIG, I’d say start off with something else.
    I got the 357 SIG as a bit of a lark-had plenty of 40 S&W and figured if getting a SIG, why not get it in the 357 SIG just for something a little different, maybe a little more penetration (it’s one of my main winter CCW), and since SIG invented the cartridge…?
    Not a thing wrong with the gun (one of my favorites), but for a newbie I’d start with something else.

    As others have stated, maybe a good (used?) .22 to start and learn the basics. This will give you somewhat of a starting point to learn what you do/don’t like although it’ll probably be a while before you narrow down your wants/need a bit.
    They get a bad rap (early models?), but I’ve always liked the idea of the Walther P22 (got one) and SIG Mosquito (plan to get one). I like a .22 that functions/handles more like what you’ll probably end up with for self-defense (I know there are a few other brands out there).

    After you’re ready to graduate from your .22 (or you may want to keep it), you should be able to go to the most popular calibers with little/no problem, although with modern ammo ain’t nothing wrong with a 9mm, and the ammo is much cheaper.

    You say you may go for CC in the future-if so, why not an XDSC?
    My main CCW is an XDSC40, but if I was doing it again I might go with the 9mm instead. It’s a surprisingly accurate gun, but you do get a little more muzzle flip than I’d like. I’d think you could stay on target a bit more with the 9mm.

    You are familiar with the whole 40 snap/45 push discussions, aren’t you?
    If you don’t go with a 9mm, you might consider a 45 for push vs. snap recoil?

    BTW…most of the time when building my collection, I compared rounds held vs. caliber. If the same gun held 10 rounds of 9mm vs. 10 rounds of 45, I’m going with the 45. On the other hand, if it held 17 rounds of 9mm vs. 10 rounds of 45, I’d probably lean towards the 9mm.

    Yeah…I know you’re going to hear the spray and pray naysayers that want to ridicule your choice if it’s based on magazine capacity, but I have no plans to “spray”-I’d just like the opportunity to put 17 rounds on target instead of 10 without reloading if the situation required!

    Oh yeah...forgot to mention...if it was me, I'd avoid a Glock for a first gun since there seem to be an unusual number of AD/ND with 'em, and I think some of it has to do with it's design. You might be better off with a manual safety or a grip safety in addition to nothing but the trigger safety as on the Glock.
    And for heaven's sake...don't let your buddies talk you into getting a trigger job for a SD weapon!
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