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Timney Trigger For Marlin Levers

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I haven't seen anything really said about these and in fact I didn't even know they existed until a few weeks ago. Well I ordered the Timney stainless version to match with my Mayodan Marlin 1895 SBL. The trigger "flop" hasn't really bothered me but the almost 6lb 12oz pull did. The factory trigger was consistent in pull weight but it was awfully high IMO. The install went well without any fuss and just used common around the house tools. I followed the Timney install vid they have on YT. I will say one tip that i saw posted somewhere that when pushing the hammer spring back into its slot to use a small pipe or the open end of a change bit screw driver to push it into the slot.

Once installed the trigger flop is completely gone, and the average for 3 pulls were 3lb and 6oz. That measurement was taken after 20 hammer pulls and trigger drops. For those that may be wondering it does keep the half cock feature and the safety button works just like the factory trigger. The same hammer extender worked on the Timney hammer as I had on the factory hammer.
 
CarJunkieLS1 said:
I've seen them but with just as many good reviews I've seen several reviews of them that said they didn't reduce the trigger pull, and sometimes caused light strikes.
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I cannot agree with that and I am not sure how a trigger would directly cause a light strike. Regardless I have four Marlin rifles with WWG triggers and two with RPP triggers and while I prefer the WWG (look and feel) both work great.

To be clear, the WWG and RPP products are only a trigger with improved sear and a no flop design. The original hammer and hammer strut and spring are retained. The Timney is a trigger and a hammer with strut and spring thus the higher cost and I would worry about that spring producing light strikes myself because I bet it is a lower rate spring than OE.
 
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3Crows said:
I cannot agree with that and I am not sure how a trigger would directly cause a light strike. Regardless I have four Marlin rifles with WWG triggers and two with RPP triggers and while I prefer the WWG (look and feel) both work great.

To be clear, the WWG and RPP products are only a trigger with improved sear and a no flop design. The original hammer and hammer strut and spring are retained. The Timney is a trigger and a hammer with strut and spring thus the higher cost and I would worry about that spring producing light strikes myself because I bet it is a lower rate spring than OE.
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I do not claim to be a Marlin expert because I am not also, I have ZERO experience with WWG or RPP but I did look at them for a while, but I saw several people on forums say they didn't really get a pull weight change, and some experienced light strikes. Maybe they changed the hammer spring which could cause light strikes. I guess I have no real way of knowing that. My thought was Timney did all the R&D and testing to make sure a replacement from them would be 100% safe and reliable. I do know that comes with a cost, and I was fine with that price. BUT in reality at this moment I have no way to know if its gonna cause issues as I haven't fired the rifle after the swap. I am positive of the pull weight dropping from 6lb 12oz to 3lb 6oz.
 
CarJunkieLS1 said:
Maybe they changed to a lighter hammer spring also? I do know that they are offered and I am guessing its possible the people experiencing issues did swap it.
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The trigger is not going to affect the hammer strike force. If those folks are getting light strikes it is because they installed a lighter hammer spring or cut a coil to "tune" their guns and make the action more "slick" or such for cowboy action. Neither of which I would recommend for a hunting and defensive gun that must work. Wolf Spring has different rate hammer springs, a few other places also.


Part of why you have an improved trigger pull is the reduced power hammer spring that came with the kit. I would think the kit would come with a well matched hammer and trigger. Installing a RPP or WWG trigger for best results some fitting will be needed to tune the trigger and hammer together. I am not much into feather light triggers or reduced power hammer springs for defensive and hunting weapons. Just me I guess but I neither am an expert.
 
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I am in the process of wringing a SBL 45/70 from my not so local dealer. I found the regular triggers on these RUgers to be pretty good. Yeah they are a little floppy .
 
Savage30L said:
What is "trigger flop"? I've never heard that term.
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See the video below. Mentioned and shown around the 1 minute mark. Basically, the Marlin centerfire levergun trigger doesn't have a spring to take up the slack. It doesn't affect function of the gun, but it does create an additional selling point for those that want to buy an after market trigger.

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Marlin Lever Action "Trigger Flop" Cure! ~ Ranger Point Precision

Fix the trigger slop found in Marlin lever actions and while your at it you can lighten the trigger pull weight and overall action feel. Link to the YouTube ...
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I've installed a few dozen WWG Happy Trigger kits and Wolf springs into Marlins - kinda interesting to see Timney enter that space NOW, when the levergun market is so sideways. Maybe they're shifting business focus a bit and accepting that the R700 market is becoming saturated and running away ahead of them, so they can take their skills into broader market opportunities better than the boutique R700 trigger builders, or maybe a relationship with Ruger is evolving to grab more of their model lines. But this is kind of interesting to see. Of course, some folks are really into the custom levergun as the "ban state friendly assault rifle," so there's at least as much demand for Timney levergun triggers as there are the skeletonized stocks and m-lock handguards for leverguns... With the up-and-down production flow of WWG over the years, I suppose I WOULD trust Timney to have a more reliable supply chain, so even if the Timney isn't quite as good as the WWG, I might end up installing several of them for the simple fact I can get them, and likely get them at a lower price.

Savage30L said:
What is "trigger flop"? I've never heard that term.
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Handle a Marlin 1894/1895/336. Lol
 
I had the WWG trigger in my Marlin(Ruger) Dark 45-70 1895. I replaced it with the Timney. I will say that the TImney is a bit heavier pull compared to the WWG (I checked them with my gauge but I don't recall off the top of my head, maybe 1# heavier?). But I did prefer the break and feel of the TImney so I have left it in the rifle. I haven't sold the WWG "happy" trigger as I plan to get a new threaded 1894 38/357 in the near future, and might stick it in there, but overall I did feel like the Timney was better quality and a great feeling trigger. If I want the pull lighter, I'm sure I could source some lighter springs but for now I'm happy with it.
 
Interesting thread going here, and thanks for everyone's feedback and opinions. I recently broke down and got the Timney trigger for my circa 1991 Marlin 30AS ( economy model 336) but don't yet know when I will have time to install it. The You Tube video looks like it's not a major hassle to put it in and I'm looking forward to something better than my current trigger that registers in the 7 lb. range on a Lyman digital gauge. I figure almost anything would be an improvement over the factory unit that it came with. I have some experience with Timneys on bolt guns and I like them, so I will admit to that influencing my decision to purchase their lever gun trigger.
 
Varminterror said:
I've installed a few dozen WWG Happy Trigger kits and Wolf springs into Marlins - kinda interesting to see Timney enter that space NOW, when the levergun market is so sideways. Maybe they're shifting business focus a bit and accepting that the R700 market is becoming saturated and running away ahead of them, so they can take their skills into broader market opportunities better than the boutique R700 trigger builders, or maybe a relationship with Ruger is evolving to grab more of their model lines. But this is kind of interesting to see. Of course, some folks are really into the custom levergun as the "ban state friendly assault rifle," so there's at least as much demand for Timney levergun triggers as there are the skeletonized stocks and m-lock handguards for leverguns... With the up-and-down production flow of WWG over the years, I suppose I WOULD trust Timney to have a more reliable supply chain, so even if the Timney isn't quite as good as the WWG, I might end up installing several of them for the simple fact I can get them, and likely get them at a lower price.



Handle a Marlin 1894/1895/336. Lol
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I have an 1894 now, and have had two 336s in the past. I just never heard that term before.

By the way, both of the 336s (one an early 50s vintage 30-30, the other a mid-80s in .356) had absolutely terrible triggers, with pull weights that must have been at least 9 pounds each. Both also had iron sights that were so badly regulated that the guns were useless without telescopic sights. They would group about 10" high and 10" to the right at 100 yards, with the rear sights set to the lowest notch. So I got rid of them.

My 1894 is much nicer. The trigger pull is heavier than I'd like (I'd guess around 6 pounds), but other than that, I've nothing to complain about.
 
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