Discussion in 'Hunting' started by NoirFan, Nov 7, 2018.
You should be good to at least 40 or 50 yds.
Regarding posts #49/50, I generally put my vertical crosshair directly in the crease right behind the shoulder for the classic broadside... heart and lungs. My thought on how to explain this is we have to disregard the center of the deer and move the bullseye to the center of the heart/lungs... aim small, hit small. Though mileage varies, they don't usually run far at all... my last one ran a whopping 25yds and never made cover.
My Daddy told me a long time ago that you don't want to shoot the deer head-on or from behind... he said he saw one another guy shot like that once and field dressing it was the awefullest mess. Just don't.
If you find yourself to be the impatient sort, (ADD like me), consider bring a book, or a digital reader. My experience has been that after two or three hours of sitting still watching quiet , quiet terrain, my attention begins to wander, and I begin to fidget. I tried bringing a book, and after reading for an hour or so, the woods became more alive, even without deer. It became a newer experience than the one I sat down to a few hours earlier.
A 6 hour wait in a ditch with a book resulted in a really nice antelope. Read a page, glass around me, read a page, glass, repeat. I saw that goat from about 1000 yards and watched him as he slowly grazed his way to about 300 yards. By the time he got to that spot, I had already gotten excited and then calmed down and made a perfect (for me) shot.
Without the book, I think I would have gotten up and moved, and missed the opportunity.
But that's me. Your mileage may vary widely..
I am the first to say I don't know everything, but 25 years of Illinois slug seasons (and a few more archery) before moving south gives a little prospective. There were heck of a lot of deer shot by myself, friends, family, and all the dudes at the old check stations.
You will be perfectly fine with the factory ghost rings, though you might have trouble seeing the front bead very early or late in the day. Those slugs are standard foster style. There is no reason to get faster (as in more boom and more recoil). I've seen just about every type of foster slugs and have yet to be able to tell from the outcome any difference between a reduced recoil 1 oz or 1-1/2 oz super magnum. They all make 70+ caliber holes in 12 gauge.
Generally speaking you dont see a ton of bang flops that stay down stone dead with slugs. They dont have the hydrostatic shock of a high velocity center fire. But a good hit will expire quickly so usually tracking is short with good blood trails.
Finishing shots from a handgun? Nope. If the deer is still alive and have a reason/opportunity for another shot, use another slug. Much more likely to hit and its your legal hunting arm.
Since you are hunting a friends private land, the hard part is already done for you - scouting and setting stands. You will be coming in at the tail end of the first rut. As others noted, animals can and likely will be moving at any time of day. I would expect your host has an idea of the local patterns and will give you advise.
I don't know if you have just a buck tag, an either sex, or 1 buck/1 doe. Regardless, any deer is better than no deer so keep an open mind about what you want to shoot. If it's late in the hunt taking a small buck or doe will be a lot better than going home empty handed should the opportunity present itself.
Funny I never found a pair that didn't interfere with my head/check to stock "weld". I wear ear plugs a lot, and have since I was a kid, so my hearing is above par especially for my age. Since I'm only shooting one shot (single shot rifle) , then I don't worry about ear plugs.
The folks that talk about your harness, Listen to that as well! My state averages about a dozen "hunting accidents" each year, but it's rare that the accident is a wound. By far it's guys falling out of stands, either they nod off and aren't in a harness, and drop, or they get hurt transitioning from ladder-to-stand or stand-to-ladder. I don't have any such concerns, since I don't do stands, I can't fall out of one. My hunting spot is rolling hills enough that where I am it acts as an elevated position vs. where the deer like to move going in our out of a bedding site.
And again, you should be able to put slugs inside a pie pan at 50yds. That doubles your initial expectations, and doubles your odds of success.
Don`t skimp on your boots. If your feet are cold you will be miserable all day.
A number of posts emphasized the creature comforts like butt-pads, warm packs for your mittens & shoes and even something to read to get you through some of the long hours on-stand. I would heartily agree as I can intently study the nearest tree branch or that annoying squirrel for so long. Over the years I have mastered these techniques to stay comfortable.
There can be problem with this, however. It you're really comfortable and warm you run the risk of falling asleep! Why, you could even be in a situation where you open your eyes after nodding off to a small herd of deer standing around you. In this situation you may find that moving a muscle to raise your gun to take that 10 yard shot will cause the deer to quickly scatter before you can take aim.
DON'T ASK ME HOW I KNOW.
Post #58, second paragraph... there's 40-11 memes about that. Funny stuff, but seriously, the deer... you don't see 'em, then there they are.
Walk in cold (not shivering though) and carry part of your layers. Sounds dumb, but it’s not. You don’t want to sweat at all. Sweat is water, water transfers temperatures exceptionally well, and if it’s cold out, anywhere that you sweat will get cold quick. It’s hard to avoid foot sweat, so carry boot warmers if it’s going to be really cold.
It sounds dumb. I know it sounds dumb. There is a very short list of things less enjoyable than sitting in the woods seeing nothing and being so cold that you can’t stand it. Don’t let your first hunt give you such a bad experience to ruin it forever.
And when your feet get cold, you're cold. And don't sit there gripping your gun all the time. Your hands will be rurnt... that cold... when you need them.
Wow, a lot of people here are afraid to poop in the woods.
Anyway, have fun and keep shots close (50y and in might be about right with rifled slugs). If you get a shot and it appears to be a miss, follow up thoroughly anyway.
So I got sighted in at 25 yards today (longest distance at my local range). I was able to shoot a nice cloverleaf group that hit about 4” below point of aim. The rear sight ran out of adjustment and the slugs were still hitting low. So I need to aim high to compensate.
BUT I also read that when shooting from an elevated stand, you should aim below your point of impact.
So does this mean that the low POA of my shotgun should be roughly canceled out by the elevation of the stand, and I should aim dead on at the vitals?
At 25 yards, yes.
Aim for midpoint of chest and its all good.
So I’m back from my first deer hunt. The bad news first: I didn’t get a deer this time. All the deer we saw were on someone else’s property and/or were too far away to shoot at. The good news is I still had a good time. I’d never been out in the woods that early and it was fun to sit still and listen to the woods come to life around me. It’s pretty amazing what you can hear moving around when you’re dead quiet. I also got to see the entertaining antics of squirrels, blue jays, cardinals and doves fighting over a bait pile. Too bad I didn’t get a deer but there’s always next year.
View from our blind:
Glad you had a good time; I enjoy any time in the woods. Looks like a great blind, and good area.
In the big swamps area I hunt just to the north of me, Wintergreen is a preferred food source. I actually keep my hunting clothes in a garbage bag with a few leaves of it when I hunt that area. Have shot deer with it still in their mouth and have gutted deer whose stomach contents were bright green and smell like a cane cane factory. Years ago when I used to chew Skoal...and would spit on the ground beneath my tree. Would have deer come up and smell/paw the area where I spat. The just of this is, what works well in one area won't work at all in others. The idea of stepping in cow poo on the way to your stand works, but what else smells like cows? A farmer, and even if it doesn't make the deer run off in fright, it does make them alarmed and pay attention to what's around them. If cows are in sight, or there is plenty of fresh manure around, it usually works.
One thing I always suggest to new hunters is to keep a journal. Put in there what works and doesn't work. Put in their weather and wind direction on the days you hunt. Put in there those days when you see the most wildlife activity, both in the woods and while driving down the road, this includes non-game animals. Put in there where you see deer and when during the season/year. After a while you will see a pattern to what works for you and what doesn't. This is not always as apparent when we just try to remember. It also brings back the memories of prior hunts more vividly.
I know a copenhagen-dipping bear hunter that switches to one of the fruity skoal flavors on the stand. Don't know if it helps- he thinks it does.
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