crotalus01
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A FUDD is a hunter/casual gun owner (Elmer Fudd) who doesnt really care about 2A rights except in the most vague and general way (a hunter who thinks silencers and machineguns should be illegal is a good example).
Tired of "Tacticool / Mall Ninja"?
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i enjoyed this thread , hadnt really thought a whole lot about it , i agree with jlday70 - be yourself , theres always some who wont like you , some who will , and a bunch that arent taking the time to experience the opportunity to decide
im young at heart but older in years now , i like my blackrifles and i like my milsurps , i really find i enjoy my 22s lately ,
ive hunted , but dont a lot anymore , prefer fishing , just as many weapons on board - but dont have to pick up the brass ,
i wear whats comfortable - got a few 511s in the closet too , and a T-shirt or two with the enfeilds i love on em , i often wear my cap with a DPMS patch on it , and i useually carry ,
dont get hung up on too much bling and be yourself , enjoy your firearms and those of your freinds if they will share , but spend your money wisely on what makes you happy
and by all means dont get riled over some stupid term some other DH hangs on you
im young at heart but older in years now , i like my blackrifles and i like my milsurps , i really find i enjoy my 22s lately ,
ive hunted , but dont a lot anymore , prefer fishing , just as many weapons on board - but dont have to pick up the brass ,
i wear whats comfortable - got a few 511s in the closet too , and a T-shirt or two with the enfeilds i love on em , i often wear my cap with a DPMS patch on it , and i useually carry ,
dont get hung up on too much bling and be yourself , enjoy your firearms and those of your freinds if they will share , but spend your money wisely on what makes you happy
and by all means dont get riled over some stupid term some other DH hangs on you
Flash!
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Mall Ninjas with their tacticool weapons and accessories are easily identified by their overwhelming need to name drop every brand and model number of everything they own, and everything they want people to believe about them, etc..... or to sum it up.... they just want attention....
sturmgewehr
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FUDD is a play on Elmer Fudd, the guy that chased around Bugs Bunny. Fudd's are hunters who think the 2nd Amendment is about hunting and nothing else. They generally dislike black rifles or anything other than bolt action rifles and shotguns (non-black shotguns mind you).
Here's the story on Gunkid: http://xavierthoughts.blogspot.com/2006/07/goodbye-gunkid.html
Jim Zumbo is what most people would call a "Fudd". Here's his story.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Zumbo
TexasRifleman
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Wisdom.
Mall Ninjas Anonymous Support Thread ?
Seriously- It shouldn't matter what you are or what you are doing as long as what you do is being done with safety as paramount and for the betterment of YOU and your skill set.
Be water, my friend- Bruce Lee
Seriously- It shouldn't matter what you are or what you are doing as long as what you do is being done with safety as paramount and for the betterment of YOU and your skill set.
Be water, my friend- Bruce Lee
Sean Dempsey
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It's just another group naming another subgroup. It has more to say about the people CALLING others tacticool, than it does the people with the EXTREME SHOCK headband.
Some just like to blow out your candle to make theirs seem brighter.
Some just like to blow out your candle to make theirs seem brighter.
longdayjake
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Depending on the day I can be a mall ninja too. Some days I shoot for accuracy and other days I blast away with my ar so that I can make a lot of dirt puffs. All I know is that every time I go to the range there are some that look at me and think that I am just a young punk that shouldn't be at the range. I don't mind though since I sometimes think bad thoughts about the old fat men with big beards wearing suspenders and a plaid shirt that pull out their huge caliber African game guns that they are going to go fill their doe tag with. Every gun and gunnie fills its own little niche. I try to be as understanding as I can because I know that for every person that I think is weird there are probably 20 or more thinking the same about me.
jnyork
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Anything that puts lead downrange is OK with me as long as it's legal, safe and doesnt interfere with my action. I do get a chuckle out of the guys who put on a special costume to go to the range or the gunshow ( cammo fatigues, pants bloused out over combat boots, black headband, etc) but I suppose that too is harmless. Each to his own.
lonegunman
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Sounds like you might qualify for a Mall Ninja badge.
If you like dressing up in combat boots and other military uniform items never served a day in the military, that is a sure sign of ninja status.
There is no law against it, so go enjoy yourself. I loved the Gecko45 thread and lets face it. Until you start taping extra trama plates to your manly hairy chest and get a pair of those shoes that allow you to climb walls you are never going to be the king of Tacticool.
If you like dressing up in combat boots and other military uniform items never served a day in the military, that is a sure sign of ninja status.
There is no law against it, so go enjoy yourself. I loved the Gecko45 thread and lets face it. Until you start taping extra trama plates to your manly hairy chest and get a pair of those shoes that allow you to climb walls you are never going to be the king of Tacticool.
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Scientific name....
Malltacticoolinja Suburbanus
Generally considered harmless, but known to emit irritating sounds and phrases that grate on one's nerves. Also known to display strange and colorful plumage in an attempt to attract females and impress other males.
Nuisance factor - considerable. Would have been eligible for a bounty in earlier times.
Malltacticoolinja Suburbanus
Generally considered harmless, but known to emit irritating sounds and phrases that grate on one's nerves. Also known to display strange and colorful plumage in an attempt to attract females and impress other males.
Nuisance factor - considerable. Would have been eligible for a bounty in earlier times.
browningguy
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Yes, quite honestly if you showed up at a private gun range dressed in combat boots, tactical AR with gadgets, carrying a pistol on your hip, I would think you were a mall ninja, or a wannabe. All the reasons in the world really wouldn't matter to me.
But don't feel bad about it, being a mall ninja isn't that bad, it's just a state of mind, some of them can probably shoot pretty well. Do you also wear tactical pants and a black t-shirt?
Although I am an old fart with a beard, I don't wear plaid, or suspenders, but I do shoot my .458 winnie on a regular basis, and hunt with a group of big bore fans once a year with it.
But don't feel bad about it, being a mall ninja isn't that bad, it's just a state of mind, some of them can probably shoot pretty well. Do you also wear tactical pants and a black t-shirt?
Although I am an old fart with a beard, I don't wear plaid, or suspenders, but I do shoot my .458 winnie on a regular basis, and hunt with a group of big bore fans once a year with it.
benEzra
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There was a post on a "black rifle" thread that exemplifies the attitude the OP is talking about, I think:
I shoot an AK. When shooting USPSA, I wear a drop-leg double mag pouch because it works, not because I want to look 'kewl.' And I don't like being stereotyped.
BeltfedMG
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Whats wrong with havin a basement full of MRE's? Where do i get the radiation tablets...i must have some. HA I do have alot of MRE's though.
dmazur
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I don't generally worry too much about what people look like (other than the inevitable "profiling" that we all do for folks who resemble derelicts or addicts), but I do get a little worried about their actions.
So, whether the shooter next to me at the range has camo on, or has a pink rifle, doesn't really matter. If he sweeps everyone with his muzzle, that's the time to worry.
Yes, it's a free country. I try to do what I can to help newer shooters, if asked. (I don't believe in unsolicited advice, except on Internet forums )
I hope that newer shooters develop safety habits before they injure themselves, or someone else. However, I've never hoped that they change what they like.
The AR-15 manufacturers have responded to this younger market, IMO. Some manufacturers that were "traditional" have bought into the newer rifles. Remington comes to mind. Some are just ignoring it and hoping it will all go away (think FUDD's as present market.)
So, that's my concern. If we don't pass a shooting tradition down to the next generation, there may not be one at all.
So the new shooters have piercings, tats and way, way too much stuff hung off their rails, along with the mandatory 5.11 gear and an attitude...as long as they are safe, and into the shooting sports, I suppose they are OK.
I don't generally worry too much about what people look like (other than the inevitable "profiling" that we all do for folks who resemble derelicts or addicts), but I do get a little worried about their actions.
So, whether the shooter next to me at the range has camo on, or has a pink rifle, doesn't really matter. If he sweeps everyone with his muzzle, that's the time to worry.
Yes, it's a free country. I try to do what I can to help newer shooters, if asked. (I don't believe in unsolicited advice, except on Internet forums
)I hope that newer shooters develop safety habits before they injure themselves, or someone else. However, I've never hoped that they change what they like.
The AR-15 manufacturers have responded to this younger market, IMO. Some manufacturers that were "traditional" have bought into the newer rifles. Remington comes to mind. Some are just ignoring it and hoping it will all go away (think FUDD's as present market.)
So, that's my concern. If we don't pass a shooting tradition down to the next generation, there may not be one at all.
So the new shooters have piercings, tats and way, way too much stuff hung off their rails, along with the mandatory 5.11 gear and an attitude...as long as they are safe, and into the shooting sports, I suppose they are OK.
TexasRifleman
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i dont understand the tacticool thing, i like how i go and look at a nice o/u and see my friends saying its stupid then watch them amazed at the taclight on a benelli m4, or when i think wood looks good and synthetic and pistol grips makes other people happy.....i guess its a matter of tastes
AjayofCanada
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So what if a guy has his AR tricked out Blackwater style and happens to owrk at Safeway? What is the difference, when did this become a sport of necessity only? The same thing can be said for sports cars. What do you need a fancy tricked out sports car for when the speed limit is 50 km/h?? And why have a stereo in it? Or fancy wheels when you only need the bare minimum to go from point A to point B????
Of course nobody NEEDS to trick out an AR, but if he wants to, whats the harm? Once again you should be thanking them for putting more money into the sport which then turns into research and development dollars, in turn it advances the ENTIRE sport for everyone.
If the entire shooting industry relied only on the wooden stock hunter types we wouldn't have much of a sport.
We need to stand together to fight the anti-gunners,unless you think we would be better off by secluding and mocking other shooters for not fitting in, God forbid they might be having fun on a AR that is absolutely unnecessary.
Of course nobody NEEDS to trick out an AR, but if he wants to, whats the harm? Once again you should be thanking them for putting more money into the sport which then turns into research and development dollars, in turn it advances the ENTIRE sport for everyone.
If the entire shooting industry relied only on the wooden stock hunter types we wouldn't have much of a sport.
We need to stand together to fight the anti-gunners,unless you think we would be better off by secluding and mocking other shooters for not fitting in, God forbid they might be having fun on a AR that is absolutely unnecessary.
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Boy what a mess. If we cannot argue about or color we argue about our income. At the shotgun range we look down on the guy with the inexpensive gun. At the gun range we look down at the guy in cammies.
All of the while the anti's are taking our rights away from us.
All of the while the anti's are taking our rights away from us.
AjayofCanada
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My point exactly Rshooter, it's like I'm in high school again, with the "bolt action plaid wearin' deer lickers" on one side, and my black rifle is not welcome near that side of the gun range.
Richbaker
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FUD(sic) should be spelled Fudd, because it is referring to Elmer Fudd....your typical older hunter who feels that all "Assault Rifles" should be banned....as in "who the heck would hunt with one o' them??" type of fools.
offroaddiver
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I think everyone has a lil bit of tacticool in them....
It's kinda like how the redneck jokes still are popular to some extent.
People either get offended or sit back and remember that time so and so bought the scope and bipod trying to get the girls number at the checkout at (insert sports store).
To the OP forget what people think and go shoot. Keep the skill up and have fun.
It's kinda like how the redneck jokes still are popular to some extent.
People either get offended or sit back and remember that time so and so bought the scope and bipod trying to get the girls number at the checkout at (insert sports store).
To the OP forget what people think and go shoot. Keep the skill up and have fun.
Ragnar Danneskjold
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Gear does not make one a mall ninja.
Let's not forget, that most of that "tactical" gear(tactical checkbooks aside) is actually utilized by real police, military, SWAT, and other "operators". It's all about having the skill-set and mindset to use them properly and in the right situation.
A mall ninja is one who only invests in the toolset. They buy the gear, but don't learn how to use it or when or when not to use it. You can have the entire Blackhawk! catalog, but that doesn't make you a mall ninja. You're only a mall ninja if you've got all that gear and then think you're good to go. If however, you have trained with that gear, and know it's limitations and applications, you are not a mall ninja.
I would also to a slightly lesser extent say that a mall ninja is also one who sees that gear as a status symbol or something to brag about, show off, and try to impress with. Generally speaking, those who use all of that tactical stuff in real life can't wait to get it off and put away. They're just tools. I wear an body armor in the Army. I wear it because I have to. It's hot, uncomfortable, and hard to move in. Yeah you feel like a bad-### the first few minutes you have it on when you're a new private, but that quickly fades into realism. The mall ninja is the guy who shows up to the range and thinks his gear will impress people, not his actual shooting.*
*I will say that even in the Army and police, there are plenty of gear heads who love the latest and greatest toys. I guess they're technically not mall ninjas since they really do use that stuff in the field, but it's still borderline.
As for mall ninjas themselves? I honestly don't care. Some people dress up in civil war garb and reenact battles. Some put on boot and spurs, strap on the Vaquero, and do cowboy shooting. Are these people Civil War soldiers or cowboys? No. They're just having fun. I guess so are mall ninjas. I've got no problem with the harmless guys who like to buy tactical stuff to have fun and makes themselves feel cool. Everyone's gotta have something fun to turn to in order to make it through this mess we call life. If mall ninjary is what they've chosen, who am I to judge. I do have less sympathy for the ones who try to pass themselves off as the real deal if they're not. That's just lying. Have your fun with you cool gear if you will. But be honest about it. Just say you like that stuff and you're having fun at the range, just like the rest of us. Don't tell me you're a Ranger or something if you're not.
Let's not forget, that most of that "tactical" gear(tactical checkbooks aside) is actually utilized by real police, military, SWAT, and other "operators". It's all about having the skill-set and mindset to use them properly and in the right situation.
A mall ninja is one who only invests in the toolset. They buy the gear, but don't learn how to use it or when or when not to use it. You can have the entire Blackhawk! catalog, but that doesn't make you a mall ninja. You're only a mall ninja if you've got all that gear and then think you're good to go. If however, you have trained with that gear, and know it's limitations and applications, you are not a mall ninja.
I would also to a slightly lesser extent say that a mall ninja is also one who sees that gear as a status symbol or something to brag about, show off, and try to impress with. Generally speaking, those who use all of that tactical stuff in real life can't wait to get it off and put away. They're just tools. I wear an body armor in the Army. I wear it because I have to. It's hot, uncomfortable, and hard to move in. Yeah you feel like a bad-### the first few minutes you have it on when you're a new private, but that quickly fades into realism. The mall ninja is the guy who shows up to the range and thinks his gear will impress people, not his actual shooting.*
*I will say that even in the Army and police, there are plenty of gear heads who love the latest and greatest toys. I guess they're technically not mall ninjas since they really do use that stuff in the field, but it's still borderline.
As for mall ninjas themselves? I honestly don't care. Some people dress up in civil war garb and reenact battles. Some put on boot and spurs, strap on the Vaquero, and do cowboy shooting. Are these people Civil War soldiers or cowboys? No. They're just having fun. I guess so are mall ninjas. I've got no problem with the harmless guys who like to buy tactical stuff to have fun and makes themselves feel cool. Everyone's gotta have something fun to turn to in order to make it through this mess we call life. If mall ninjary is what they've chosen, who am I to judge. I do have less sympathy for the ones who try to pass themselves off as the real deal if they're not. That's just lying. Have your fun with you cool gear if you will. But be honest about it. Just say you like that stuff and you're having fun at the range, just like the rest of us. Don't tell me you're a Ranger or something if you're not.
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