Titanium Fetish?
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Schuey2002
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Get a Glock.. Oops, wrong thread.. 
I'm bound to get a nasty gram for this one !!!!
I'm bound to get a nasty gram for this one !!!!
Zak Smith
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BerettaNut92
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Some guy on another forum bought custom chopsticks! You are not alone!
Owen
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mete,
Who is making Ti barrels for whom?
The problem with Ti is that it is not so good when it will be exposed to rubbing.
It should e okay for a frame, because frame rails donts really have much load. In a slide, you would want a steel barrel bushing and breech face at a minimum. The slide rails should be ok, for the same reason the frame rails would be ok.
Who is making Ti barrels for whom?
The problem with Ti is that it is not so good when it will be exposed to rubbing.
It should e okay for a frame, because frame rails donts really have much load. In a slide, you would want a steel barrel bushing and breech face at a minimum. The slide rails should be ok, for the same reason the frame rails would be ok.
Thumper
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Skunk,
I bought one of these Sunday:
http://www.impactguns.com/store/walther_p99_ti.html
When I first looked at one, I thought to myself, "Now there's a Skunky pistol."
I bought one of these Sunday:
http://www.impactguns.com/store/walther_p99_ti.html
When I first looked at one, I thought to myself, "Now there's a Skunky pistol."
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Handy
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The "Titanium" in that P99 is likely titanium nitride plating, as used on drill bits.
I didn't think Ti rifled barrels were possible either. Mete?
I didn't think Ti rifled barrels were possible either. Mete?
tw1112
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How about a desert eagle! 
You can even get it in gold to call it your pimp gun
You can even get it in gold to call it your pimp gun
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Handy
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Yep, that's plating, too.
Carbon_15
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One thing I have never seen mentioned before is how hard it is to clean raw titanium. Polished titanium like on the Desert Eagle or the P99 is very easy to clean..everything just wipes off. But raw, machined titanium, like the S&W revolver cylinders or the 1911 frame is an absolute bear to clean. The powder residue on the outside of the cylinder is practialy imposible to remove.
Smoke
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Uh...Skunk
What happened to the tactical pledge?
What happened to the tactical pledge?
Handy, I didn't say it was easy or cheap to make a titanium barrel, I just said it had been done. Titanium nitride , the gold stuff on drill bits is often refered to as titanium in ads and that causes great confusion. The best parts of titanium are its very high corrosion resistance and its high strength to weight ratio. Where can I get those titanium chopsticks ??
Just give me a shout, I would be delighted to make you some titanium springs
Titanium has some slightly bizarre properties. Very corrosion resistant, but at high temperatures, it will absorb impurities from the air, and become highly brittle. I think that's why no one wants to make barrels for it - the hot gases would cause some very unpleasant surprises.
Titanium spring wire will age harden up to about Rc 42 in hardness. When you heat treat it, it must be etched with acid, made spotlessly clean, then placed in a high vaccum furnace for age hardening for a few hours at 1000 degrees. Touch the bare metal with skin prior to heat treating, and the salt from your body will be absorbed into the metal at high temperature. The spring will then break like glass where you touched it
Interesting material, but it has its quirks, to put it mildly.
Titanium has some slightly bizarre properties. Very corrosion resistant, but at high temperatures, it will absorb impurities from the air, and become highly brittle. I think that's why no one wants to make barrels for it - the hot gases would cause some very unpleasant surprises.
Titanium spring wire will age harden up to about Rc 42 in hardness. When you heat treat it, it must be etched with acid, made spotlessly clean, then placed in a high vaccum furnace for age hardening for a few hours at 1000 degrees. Touch the bare metal with skin prior to heat treating, and the salt from your body will be absorbed into the metal at high temperature. The spring will then break like glass where you touched it
Interesting material, but it has its quirks, to put it mildly.
Tamara
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Handy,
Why not just cut holes in the slide? It's easier and cheaper and has the same end result (a lighter slide)
Polymer and aluminium have all those good properties, are plenty strong enough for handgun frames, and are lighter than Titanium.
I know that the gun industry is barely staggering out of the stone age, but the simple fact of the matter is that except for some lockwork parts and revolver cylinders, there's almost nothing that could be made out of Ti that couldn't be made out of something else better suited for the job and easier to work with. Of course, that's not as sexycool as "Titanium"...
Why not just cut holes in the slide? It's easier and cheaper and has the same end result (a lighter slide)
Polymer and aluminium have all those good properties, are plenty strong enough for handgun frames, and are lighter than Titanium.
I know that the gun industry is barely staggering out of the stone age, but the simple fact of the matter is that except for some lockwork parts and revolver cylinders, there's almost nothing that could be made out of Ti that couldn't be made out of something else better suited for the job and easier to work with. Of course, that's not as sexycool as "Titanium"...
Marko Kloos
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Modern alloys can do everything Titanium does, while being cheaper and easier to manufacture. Ti is a funky and space-age material, but it's expensive and difficult to machine.
S&W made some prototype airweight snubbies for the Secret Service, models 442 with aluminum alloy cylinders. They were lighter than the Ti guns, and they passed the 4,000 round durability test with +P ammo without problems.
S&W made some prototype airweight snubbies for the Secret Service, models 442 with aluminum alloy cylinders. They were lighter than the Ti guns, and they passed the 4,000 round durability test with +P ammo without problems.
Tamara
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Handy,
I'm surprised you'd be talking about such obsolete bikes when recumbents are obviously the wave of the future...
I'm surprised you'd be talking about such obsolete bikes when recumbents are obviously the wave of the future...
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