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(TN) Pastor joins many toting guns to cope with meaner streets

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Drizzt, Jul 19, 2003.

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  1. Drizzt

    Drizzt Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Moscow on the Colorado, TX
    Minister of Defense
    Pastor joins many toting guns to cope with meaner streets

    By Sherri Drake
    July 18, 2003

    Rev. Louis Brenton is armed everywhere he goes, sometimes with the Bible but always with a Glock 23.

    "I occasionally have to walk into some situations that are a little iffy," said the pastor of East Side Cumberland Presbyterian Church on South Prescott.

    Brenton said carrying a gun makes him feel more at ease in Memphis. He's prepared to defend himself if he is ever attacked.

    Cassandra Holland, 32, knows that feeling, too. The Loomis Fargo & Co. employee was robbed at gunpoint in 2000.

    "Every time I went to sleep, I'd see that gun in my face," she said. "So, I said, 'No more.' "

    If it happens again, she said, she's not afraid to pull the .32-caliber pistol she just bought. "I'm ready," she said. "If you come in my house and I don't know who you are, I'll fire on you."

    With the recent wave of armed robberies and home invasions, many are weighing the decision to carry a gun.

    But officials say packing a pistol is nothing to toy with.

    "Anytime you have a rash of crimes like we've been having in Memphis and Shelby County people just get scared," said Sheriff's Lt. James Windland. "They panic and are in fear and just want some type of protection."

    For those who decide to carry a gun, the most important thing is to be well-trained and prepared for the consequences, said Windland, who runs the sheriff's pistol range.

    Gun shop owners say men and women, from 21 to 91, come into the stores ready to face those consequences.

    "These are huge decisions to make," said Chris Fowler, a Top Brass owner. "I tell them when they come in: 'If you decide to carry a gun, you will use it. And if you use it as we have instructed, you're going to take a life. Is that OK with you?' "

    If it's not OK, they need to walk right back out the door, he said.

    Those who choose to carry a gun, Fowler says, need an eight-hour training course to get a permit and the right mindset.

    You must be prepared to react rationally in an irrational situation, said Brenton, who got his permit through RangeMaster. To save you or your family members, you must be willing to take your attacker's life.

    But some say carrying a gun threatens the lives of family members, rather than protecting them.

    "Anytime you rely on a mechanical object to defend yourself, you increase your chances of being a victim," said Mike Beard, president of the Washington-based Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.

    Everyone thinks he's more equipped than he really is, he said.

    "They do it in the movies," he said. "John Wayne looks left and shoots right and the bad guy falls down. But it just doesn't happen like that."

    Beard said he tells people to take a self-defense course or use other objects to ward off attackers. "Just think of all the things you can do with a pool cue," he said.

  2. Jeff White

    Jeff White Moderator Staff Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Alma Illinois
    So bare hands is ok?

    Not really..some people actually train constantly because they know they will never be really equipped

    Some truth to this, we talk about it here. Having a gun doesn't necessarily make you armed.

    So other objects are ok, just not guns....Like to know why he'd deny people effective defense but says they should defend themselves. Maybe he just objects to the noise :rolleyes:

    Hey Mike, aren't pool cues mechanical objetcs? Seems to me it's a lever. BTW shouldn't the term be mechanical device?

    Anyone been to the Mike Beard school of self defense? :scrutiny:

    Does anyone here think that Mike Beard read his statement before he gave it to the paper and realized how stupid it is?

  3. twoblink

    twoblink Member

    Dec 22, 2002
    Houston, Texas
    ???:confused: :scrutiny:

    Isn't this a cart before the horse problem? I'm a potential victim regardless if I'm packing or not; how is it that my chances increase?

    The :cuss: they spew is just disgustin.
  4. BOBE

    BOBE Member

    Dec 31, 2002
    Is Beard saying that pool halls are dangerous? Maybe so since he mentioned the pool cue; or are we all expected to walk around with one all the
    time? This guy is either stupid or less than honest:banghead:
  5. Marko Kloos

    Marko Kloos Moderator Emeritus

    Dec 20, 2002
    Enfield, NH
    Which is why police officers carry a multitude of mechanical devices...including guns and pepper spray. If only they'd know that carrying all the stuff makes them more likely to be victims. :rolleyes:
  6. Intune

    Intune Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    On Old Hickory Lake near Nashville TN
    Use the right tool for the job, Mike. Ever try to play pool with a pistol?

  7. Monkeyleg

    Monkeyleg Member

    Dec 25, 2002
    Decatur, AL
    Intune, that actually sounds like fun!
  8. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Idahohoho, the jolliest state
    Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites—and complete fools if they believe their own rhetoric.
  9. joebogey

    joebogey Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    It sounds like fun till ya start thinkin about richochets. Then it starts to lose it's glamour. LOL
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