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to mini 14 or not two

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by rshackleford, Feb 14, 2009.

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  1. rshackleford

    rshackleford Member

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    i have a couple of mini 14 opportunities. both are the ranch rifle with steel barrel and wood stock.

    one is at $600 but will probably come down more. it is a used mini with only rifle and mag from a pawn shop.

    the other is a $607 nib at walmart, ranch rifle with steel barrel and wood stock.

    both are the same gun.

    should i haggle more at the pawn shop or go to walmart or save my money?
     
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  2. husker

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    new and make sure its the new 580s and not the old ones.
     
  3. Hoppy590

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    spend as much as a build your own AR and get 1/8th the gun...

    no thanks


    screw ruger, screw their previous politics, screw their shotty recalled products, screw their constant failures on the mini line


    i have said it. kiss TFPMA (The Fattest Part of My A$$) if you disagree.
     
  4. husker

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    ya hoppys right. i was so pissed at my self after i bought my mini14 a month later i bought a colt AR15. i keep the mini just to remind me of what happened when i jumped to fast on the mini14. now i do my home work before i buy.
     
  5. rshackleford

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    wow i had no idea.

    i could put an ar together for this much?
     
  6. husker

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    parts are getting hard to find for the AR or so i hear. but in the long run an ar build is somthing you will be proud of for the rest of your life. the$ value will prob. keep going up to. and the ruger will never ever ever be in the same class as the AR.its night and day
     
  7. rshackleford

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    i am not sure. i am looking for a factory weapon. home made is not quite my style. like i say with my harley, it only runs good because i haven't customized it.
     
  8. husker

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    just so ya no. they look better than they shoot. and the 580 are better than the old ones. i can hit the barn door at 150yrds with the mini, i can shoot the hing off the door at 150yrds with the AR
     
  9. Hoppy590

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    an AR rifle ( specificaly the lower) is basically knock 2 pins in, and place the trigger group.

    not much for you to screw up. uppers from most companies will show up completed and ready to go.

    i wouldnt consider it the same as constructing/modifing an engine.

    more like changing oil. if you have 2 cents and a thumb, you can do it.

    this video will show you how simply the lower assembly is. the upper will normally come as one completed piece that u just pop in

    http://www.lifelibertyetc.com/RangeBag/video/LLE_AR15StrippedLower.wmv
     
  10. Hoppy590

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    added. you can build an AR for this price if you can find a lower at a reasonable price ( under 150$) and are willing to wait the time ( months + ) for a parts kit.
     
  11. BlacklabelOP

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    current times you are looking to spend $900+ for a basic AR

    if you want to shoot under 150yds get a mini-14 or a mosin !!!
     
  12. husker

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    if i have to. i guess i can say one good thing about the mini i have. the dam thing will eat any ammo from the nasty wolf to hornidy. and iv never had a jam yet. and i beat it like a red headed step child. now that i said that i have to go brush my teeth and rinse with mouth wash. i hope your happy one of my fillings just fell out
     
  13. Sunray

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    "...or not two..." Or what?
    Any standard Mini-14 is too expensive for the accuracy they give. You can have a CMP M1 Carbine for about $200 less that'll shoot circles around any standard Mini-14.
     
  14. Ignition Override

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    Hoppy:
    Despite being a rel. novice, have read lots on "Perfectunion" and Ruger lost many formerly loyal fans to not only ARs, but SKS and AKs/Saigas, partly due to the fact that they would not produce or sell high-cap. mags to the public, until recently....after the election.

    And they either never built or sold any high-caps for the Mini 30, which helped doom that rifle.

    Ruger Inc., even after Bill Ruger's death, might be N. Pelosi (= 'H. Jane')/
    C. Schumer's dream come true.
     
  15. Zach S

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    Not very High Road, although I wont disagree.

    I never was impressed with the Mini's.

    A few years ago I shot a Mini 14 and then a Saiga in .223. I was pretty impressed with the "inaccurate" AK that got better groups. I wish I'd got my 7.62 Saiga before the panic prices kicked in, now excuse while I kick myself in the butt again for not doing so.
     
  16. swiftak

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    I would save the money and buy a better gun. I was never really impressed with my Mini. If you are a reloader, good luck finding your brass. There are alot of better guns out there for that kind of money.
     
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    Mini-14

    The Mini-14 has S-L-O-W-L-Y gotten much better than even the first 580 series. The last one I sighted in at the range for a friend kept 1.25 MOA at 100 yards. I fired it again last week after 2 two years and it's still right there at 1.25 MOA. I'm personally considering the Mini Ranch in 6.8 SPC right now if I can find brass for reloading.
     
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    The rifle itself is just pat of the package. Magazines for the Mini-14 cost several times that what good AR mags cost. Spare parts for the Mini aren't available because Ruger won't sell them to you and they are the sole source.

    I had an older Mini-14. I could never get aftermarket mags that worked good enough for me to get the rifle hot enough to experience stringing of the shot pattern. Sold it pretty darn quick.

    BSW
     
  19. carbine85

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    Mini 14's are great little rifles for half the cost of the AR15. I have both and prefer the AR15. My older Mini is actually very accurate, not as good as the AR15 but still pretty good. The Mini has never failed in any way with around 10,000 rounds down the tube. If you like the idea of 2 Mini's then go for it. You can alway sell one and get your money back.
     
  20. rshackleford

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    a lot of passion against the mini 14 with a little bit of appreciation mixed in.

    thanks guys, now i am really confused!
     
  21. husker

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    dont be confused. just under stand that the mini has a lot of draw backs to it. in the accuracy department. and a lot of muzzel jump to. theirs also alot of people who hate ruger on the pollitical side of things. he didnt do him self any favors with the public when Clinton was in office. it was a big stab in the back for a lot of people. if i could only use the 5 round mag id throw my mini in the fire place and be done with it. save your money. thiers a good chance the same things are going to happen again with ruger now that Oboma in the white house
     
  22. jimmyraythomason

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    If anyone who hates Ruger because of Bill Ruger's political activities must also hate Volkswagens and not drive on interstate highways because they were created by Adolf Hitler. Not much difference.
     
  23. trigga

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    mini 14 just doesn't appeal to me. add a hundred or two and get a used ar15. do what i did, buy the complete bottom receiver, then later buy the complete upper.
     
  24. Walkalong

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    Unlike some, I love my Mini 14. Super reliable and rugged. I have AR's too. Fine guns.

    The newer Mini 14's have a rep of much better accuracy than the old ones. Take that into consideration between the two.
     
  25. Art Eatman

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    I really do wish that follks could read all of an opening post, instead of struggling mightily to work through the thread title and completely ignoring the topic of the thread.

    The question was about which of two Minis to buy. Not about whether or not to buy a Mini.

    To stay with the off-topic nature of the thread, the Mini is just as good as any AR when it comes to putting the first shot into a coyote or jackrabbit. It's agreed upon by almost everybody that the Mini heats up and its groups open up as one gets past the first three or so shots.

    If your use for a Mini is for hunting, it's as good as most anything. If you want tight groups at the benchrest, forget it.

    I've had four Minis. Two blued, two stainless. They did just fine for me on coyotes and jackrabbits. I've had four ARs before the present #5. Three were just average shooters, not particularly impressive; the Bushie Match Target was outstanding. The AR I now have, I can hold about 1.5MOA with the factory sights.

    As far as the actual subject of this thread, I answered it over at TFL. :)

    Art
     
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