Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by 1 old 0311, May 13, 2006.
Best of luck though.
It is 1984 come to life.
friend that says San Diego is a great place too live, but a bitch
towards firearms ownership. He advises against gun nuts moving
If the job will help your career, take it. San Diego is beautiful. Every place has its price. Enjoy the good. Minimize the bad. You may end up moving to a different state later.
Gun laws are restrictive and absurd. However, once you take a simple written test and obtain your California Handgun Safety Certificate (available at any sporting goods chain or gun shop) you're good to go. But firearms are readily available as are shooting ranges. Especially in San Diego. Ownership isn't really as difficult as some think. The problem is the ever increasing restrictions on what you may BUY and the many guns that are no longer available to import. However, gun shops all have full display cases with a pretty fair variety. At least for now. The future is less bright.
I feel sorry for you because you're trying to bring guns INTO the state.
Everything in San Diego is inflated. The value of homes, the water bill, commute times, their sense of self-worth.
I hope its worth it.
We have pot smoking lefty legislators and actors thinking that they are smarter than you, wanting to redistribute your wages. Our real-estate is overpriced, but, thankfully, the bubble is bursting. Our gun laws are just plain stupid, and gun owners have to be careful not to be in violation of some law or another.
Having said everything above, we do have great weather.
If the job is necessary for your career, go ahead and take it, just leave all of your guns in a locker in Arizona or Nevada and drive out to visit them every couple of months. After you get some experience, in a couple of years, move to a more up and coming state. California had it's golden age, and it is over. There are other states with better long term opportunities. As soon as my folks kick off, I'm out-a here.
As another native Californian and a gun owner, I'd also recommend AGAINST moving here.
But if you must, there there are a few things to be aware of:
Handguns must be registered here. When you bring your handguns with you into the state (minus all +10 round magazines, of course) you must send a registration card and pay a fee to register each handgun. On the plus side, you can bring in just about any handgun whether it's on the California Approved list or not, unless it is classfied as an 'assault pistol'. Any handgun with a removable magazine mounted forward of the trigger falls into this category.
List of Handguns Approved for Sale in California
If your non-assaulty-handguns are not on the CA-approved list, you may find yourself in the enviable position of Californians paying exhorbitant prices to you for your non-approved handguns, as face-to-face Private Party Transfers are just about the ONLY way for Californians to legally obtain a non-CA-approved handgun. I'm NOT suggesting you load yourself up with KelTec P11s and P32 to bring into California to sell, because you could get in trouble for importing firearms for resale.
There is no registration requirement for long guns (yet ), but you may not bring with you any "assault weapons" as defined by California. No ARs, no AKs, no detachable-mag FALs... Basically anything with a detachable mag and a pistol grip. Also, you cannot bring in any .50 BMG rifles.
Oh and no flash hiders or sound suppressors are allowed. And no night-vision scopes allowed either. Also no Class III firearms allowed. Or any Short Barreled Rifles. No "Any Other Weapons". Automatic knives also not allowed. Nor are 'push daggers', nunchakus, throwing stars/shuriken, and blowguns. I'm definitely forgetting more.
I think we can still own pointy sticks
If you love shooting, you'll be disappointed to hear that at least in the Los Angeles area, shooting ranges have been closing down or are fighting attempts to close them down. Most ranges have restrictions against "rapid fire"... which means more than one shot per second Steel-core or even steel-jacketed ammunition is generally not allowed at firing ranges due to fire hazard (outdoor ranges) or damaging to backstops (indoor ranges). Tracer ammunition is illegal.
If you're still hell-bent on moving here, then we California gun owners would welcome you if you'd join us in the fight to restore our 2nd amendment rights. Browse the boards for California CCW and Calguns.net for more.
California CCW forums
My one big question has always been if SDC is like 60 % military dependent, why is the local sherriff a Die hard anti?
With what I saw when I was there, I would have to believe a progun candidate would walk all over the status quo.
How long is this job for? You have to make the choice but I would say that you could get sent to a lot worse places on earth.
It has its charms, but too many negatives, even above and beyond gun rights. It's sad to see it go down the tubes.
Every day I'm glad I'm outta there.
My advice would be to stay out.
Not to mention the fact that the Sheriff I spoke to was rude and obnoxious and definitely made me feel like I was unwanted in the state for being an American.
Not worth it for me, your mileage may vary....
Have a nice trip.
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