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To resort the brass or not?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by wtr100, Jan 10, 2013.

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  1. wtr100

    wtr100 Member

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    Apologies if this sounds like a for sale ad. Little back ground my boys have a little business selling range brass. They sort and clean (I q/a the sorting) , batch it , box it and auction it, ship it. They’re doing ok with it and learning a bit about running a business. We had a slight, ah mishap, where a bucket of 40 S&W got dumped in with a bucket of 45 ACP.

    My question is if we were to clearly state in the auction this was mixed this way would anyone buy it? Maybe just start it at $.01 with no reserve and let it go where it goes?

    Alternatively two hours of resorting brass might focus attention on putting brass into the right bucket once it’s clean … :evil:
     
  2. Pensfan

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    I think having your boys fix their little mistake will teach them responsibility and possibly prevent future errors which could have steeper consequences than 2 hours of wasted labor.

    Congrats on teaching your boys what it means to work for a living. I think we have far too little of that attitude in our society these days.

    :)
     
  3. MtnCreek

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    Talk to them about it and see what decision they make. My dad would 'advise once', then let me skrew it up as badly as I cared to after that.
     
  4. ATLDave

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    Will somebody buy it mixed? Sure, but it's almost certain to bring a lower price. If you're selling .45 brass, everyone who reloads .45 is a potential customer. If you're selling .40 brass, everyone who reloads .40 is a potential customer. If you're selling a mixed lot, only those who reload both .40 and .45 are potential customers. It's a smaller market. That means fewer bidders, which means lower prices.

    If it were me, I might sell one or two batches mixed just to see what the loss is. If it only nets a buck less, and it saves hours of sorting, I might never sort again for selling purposes; maybe I could use the extra time to move more brass and make it up in volume. The data might be worth whatever "loss" is taken on the first sale.

    If the boys are truly minors, demanding a re-sort might teach lessons about work and doing a job right. But a deliberate sale of a mixed set might teach lessons about market behavior, how to do experiments to learn useful things, etc. Only you as their parent would know which lesson set is needed more.
     
  5. Jimfern

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    I'd bid on mixed, especially if I knew which calibers were in the mix. I do suspect you'll see a lower sale price for it though, due to the uncertainty (how many of each) of what the buyer is getting.
     
  6. horsemen61

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    Id tell them to fix it and resort it
     
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    I'd bid on it.
     
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    Definitely resort it. It'll stay in their minds a lot longer than just selling. It would definitely be a life lesson in paying attention to detail.

    Attention to detail, attention to detail, attention to detail.
     
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    If I were bidding, I'd bid lower than for an equivalent quantity of sorted brass; buying it mixed means that I would have to spend the time to sort it myself.

    Excellent lesson in responsibility and attention to detail for the boys to re-sort the brass and fix their error.
     
  10. hAkron

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    Resort it. Sell it at full price, and use the money to buy those brass sorting tubs from MidwayUSA.
     
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    People will buy it mixed, then if they only reload one of the 2 calibers then they can pawn or sell the others off.

    On the other hand this would be a good learning lesson for them.

    Pretty much 6 one way, half dozen the other.
     
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    I bought a mixed lot of 45 Colt and 44 mag from an auction and there was over 500 rounds total. I got it at a real good price $23.00.
    you may want to separate it again.
     
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    The boys need to separate.

    Sorry, but I wouldn't buy any - even if you offered it at a discount.
     
  15. wtr100

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    the boys are going to auction as is - they figure if it doesn't sell they will sort it later

    they are working on sorting a 'fresh' bucket tonight are a finding a good bit of 7.62 x 39 boxer primed - little capitalist pigs ...
     
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    The sorter set shown in post #13 works quite well. I bought mine from Dillon--I thought it was a bit overpriced when I bought it, but having had it a while, it is worth its weight in gold.

    And I don't separate anywhere near the volume you do.
     
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    I did the same thing by mistake with several thousand 9mm and .40 acp cases. I would strongly suggest they re-sort the brass. If for no other reason, it will make it easier to sell the brass cause the buyer will know what they are getting. I can tell you that if it were me buying brass I wouldn't want to buy mixed brass unless it was really, really inexpensive.

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    I personally think of it like this, it's called QC for a reason and I doubt seriously that there is anyone here who hasn't had some issue with it and a supplier/manufacturer in the past.

    We all strive for the best deal we can get for our money, and I believe it would not only be a great lesson for them, but also a good business practice, to separate it just as if they were selling it as new product.

    If it gets by here, then why not just sell it all as mixed brass, and cut the sorting completely?

    While I realize that this is a small time thing, but as you yourself mentioned "they are learning a bit about running a business". In a successful business, QC and customer satisfaction are #1 priorities, or used to be once upon a time.

    There is no doubt in my mind what my pop would have told me had I been in a similar circumstance.
     
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    Agree! Been using a set for 3 years, makes sorting simple.
     
  20. wtr100

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    the boys managed to sell it to one of our existing customers - they also got him to take (buy) all sorts of 'odds and ends' like some 10 mm , 44 special 44/40

    they might have bright futures as used car salesmen or lawyers ...
     
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    Next time you have an assortment of 10mm and 44 special, let me know. I would have bought that for sure.
     
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    I'm sure this was meant as tongue-in-cheek but;
    If they were my boys, I would have them invest some of their earning in equipment like the sorting baskets not only to make the task easier but to encourage them to build good work ethics and a business model to be proud of.
     
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    I have a set of the sorters pictures in #13. They save gobs of time. Get the .380 insert as well.

    I'm with many who have said they'd bid on a lot of mixed .45, .40, and 9mm. But given I don't know the mix, my bid would be for xx number the lowest value case in the mix unless there was some guarantee of the minimum percentages of each.
     
  24. wtr100

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    they have invested in that already
     
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    I would pay maybe $.05 with an assurance that it was unsorted, but pretty much all service calibers.
     
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