Today I feared for my safety and pulled my gun - lessons learned

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Besides the flashlight, I'd keep an empty Snapple bottle in the glove compartment. You never know when you'll need a portable place to pee. I find myself much calmer and able to handle stressful encounters when I've... "relieved"... myself.
 
Lets see, gun in car, goes to bar, drinks some beer, drives the car....

Am I missing something.....

Forget about the doggie...heres the rule...gun in posession, no drinky.

WilddontmakethatmistakeagainAlaska
 
Personally, I would've, if frightened by a stray mutt, just backed back out and driven around the block a couple of times.

Or just rolled my window down a bit and said "Pretty doggie!"

Kirk
 
dukeofurl,


First: Oops! Sorry for getting your handle wrong! I didn't pay enough attention.

As for anything else I can think of to say, it's already been said, so I'll remain quiet for a bit :)
 
I went out with the guys - met them at the bar at Chilis. We took Kill Bill Volume 2 over to a friends place and watched it over a 6 pack of Amber Bock.

Okay so we got our liqour, then went driving, and had the images from Kill Bill floating through our TTM. (tired tactical mind) ...oh yea not to mention.. we REALLY gotta go Peeeeee! Sorry but the poster has already started out with a couple things not in their favor.

I see this furry looking creature getting ready to stroll

Not charge, not run, not stumble while foaming at the gums... stroll...

I (...) instinctively grab my 45 I keep in the glovebox

Please tell us that this poster does not leave a weapon in their car protected by 20 dollars worth of flimsy locks and 4-6 easily broken panes of glass...please...

As for 'instinctive'... So called muscle memory et al come from lots of practice. 1) Duck, 2) tuck, 3) unlatch 4) open glovebox 5) retrieve - repeat. repeat. repeat.

Now, some situational awareness here

Very tactical!

So I'm watching this dog stroll around my car
I hear the pitter-patter of paws

Killer instincts for sure.

Too bad discharging a firearm in city limits is a municipal offense, otherwise I'd take matters into my own hands.

That will teach the SOBs to obey leash laws! And if the little girl that owns it cries well lifes a b***h sweetheart! Better learn now! Our motto: Sic Semper Pets!

oh boy....

The para is at the ready. I walk up and see nothing. I walk to the front door - and I feel a bump. The dog is right between my legs. he darted out of the way and I made my way to the front door.

The dog knew you were there LONG before you did. If an epiphany was to be had, one would think the lightbulbs would pop on about here... This animal was in my opinion based solely on the posters own words almost as much of a threat as the doorknob.

Some of the lights from the car bounced off the wall of the house so I could see the animals eyes about 5 feet away from me as my back is against the wall. My Para is leveled at the 2 glowing green orbs. Oh I wish I had night sights,

A flourish of literary brilliance! Wow.... I can almost FEEL like I am with the puppy the kid next door left outside.

My heart is in my throat and I said to myself - If this thing takes one step towards me, permanent hearing loss and city ordinances be dammed;

Me too! When I fear for my life, and am pulling weapons out and leveling them at the two devil-possessed orbs of evil about to rip my very life from me, I too would be thinking, "I wonder what the perscribed fine for this action is listed as in the municipal code".

The dog turned his head and walked away

Damn... Just as I was gonna say, "Wag yer tail and make my day! MFer!"

I am sorry if this seems harsh to anyoine, especially to the poster. But the truth of the matter is that the anti-gunners LOVE stuff like this. An over-reaction, brought on by imho exagerated fear and the potential of violating numerous laws as well as possibly killing peoples pets are things that the antis just LIVE to exploit. I do not want to even get INTO lawyers, and local law enforcement perspectives on a situation like this... especially if he had dropped the mutt. Again, its the sort of thing people just LOVE to sue over and local LE would probably love to make a code 3 run to a shots fired call.... This sort of post does not help our cause folks.

I do not truly mean to be disrespectful, the exercise above is my attempt to graphically show what sort of response one might get from the 'average fence sitter'. I do not mean direct disrespect for the poster, but I DO want to point out that this sort of testosterone talk over what can easily be viewed as a mundane situation by the 'average citizen' is just not in the best interest of 2nd ammendment supporters.

I leave open the possibility that this was another Mall Ninja type of humor post.

Wild Alaska Wrote:
Forget about the doggie...heres the rule...gun in posession, no drinky.
Gosh and I thought I'd never agree with anything that guy said (or at least not how he says it)... where's the crow?
 
Forget about the doggie...heres the rule...gun in posession, no drinky.

Agreed.

It's just a dog. Unless it was on my hood or barking through my windows, I wouldn't' have thought twice about getting out, even here in coyote country.

I've pepper sprayed a dog before - it works well... but gets hot pink crap all over your pants and hands... AND DON"T SMELL IT!!

Take a trip home and make a deposit to your safe before you drink. One beer could land you in SERIOUS criminal and civil liability. If you feel you need to carry, don't drink.

-Colin
 
Lessons Learned ...

There's a lesson here for dog owners as well. Don't let your dog off the leash in populated areas. Simple. You can't know how someone else is going to react to a loose animal. I am speaking from experience. I had once owned a beautiful Alaskan Malamute. She was a huge dog with massive jaws, actually oversized for the breed. She looked very intimidating, but she was as gentle as a kitten. I made the mistake of taking her off the leash for a training sesssion and she got away from me. Before I could catch her, she tackled one of the neighbour's dogs, some little 'toy poodle type thing'. The neighbour's dog wasn't injured, but he went ballistic. He called my landlord and the cops. Made it sound like the dog was some sort of viscious hell-hound. It didn't go well for me. I paid a fine and ended up putting the dog down. After a lecture from the police, I was in fear of a lawsuit that I would not have been able to cover. So, if your a dog owner who does not live in a rural area, aways keep the dog on a chain or in a pen. I learned that lesson the hard way ...
 
When one achieves rightnes oh AlaskanOracleOfAllKnowledge....is it normal for them to suddenly start to feel FILTHY ??


Filthy is such a strong word. Wouldn't "dirty" work? Kinda like you need a bath or maybe a tetanus shot? :D
 
tetanus shot?

Kinda scary....I'm drawing a cocked and locked 1911 and surefire at the very thought. Woof.
 
Filthy is such a strong word. Wouldn't "dirty" work? Kinda like you need a bath or maybe a tetanus shot?
No no no... filthy IS the correct word. Agreeing with WildAL is like jumping into a 7 foot deep pit toilet wearing only a jock strap. (Theres a visual for ya!) Filthy IS the right word. :uhoh:

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At what point while you were being circled by this minion of hell ( :rolleyes: ) did you NOT realize that 1) if the dog was a valid threat, 2) you're SITTING in a two ton WEAPON.

Screw night sights, run his ass over. Happens all the time. Whoops!
 
This incident is described with numerous references to the Lord, though none are flattering. More Faith in Him could be rewarded with less fear of the dark because fear does not come from God.

I stuck the Para between the gearshift and my front seat as I reached for my phone.

The pistol often referred to is stated to be a Para but the model designation does not appear to be mentioned and I wondered which model it is.

Is it the Para Noia?
 
When one achieves rightnes oh AlaskanOracleOfAllKnowledge....is it normal for them to suddenly start to feel FILTHY ??

Of course...when they recognize how misguided and wrong they have been up to then, it is normal to feel such self loathing that one feels dirty...even filthy...

Keep agreeing with me you and your cohorts will be fully clean some day bwaaaaaaahahahahahahaha :)


WildandnowthattheplayggroundanticsarefinishedbacktoourregularlysheduledslugfestAlaska
 
"The pistol often referred to is stated to be a Para but the model designation does not appear to be mentioned and I wondered which model it is.

Is it the Para Noia?"

Thank you nemesis. My sides are hurting.
 
I am amazed that when you told the 911 operator you were armed and prepared to fire they did not make your call a priority. Usually any call to a 911 center that involves a gun gets some attention.
 
I'm in my car in my driveway holding a 45 that is cocked, unlocked, and unchambered.

Am I missing something or is there a purpose to having a gun cocked and locked without a round in the chamber? With no round in the chamber, wouldn't you have to pull the slide back which would accomplish the gun being cocked?

I guess we can't feel exactly what you were feeling that made you react this way but just remember the lessons for next time.

1. Alcohol and firearms don't mix
2. Use your cell phone to call someone in your house!
3. Try other possibilities before thinking about shooting someone's pet (honking the horn, waiting until he is by the door and opening it really fast ;) )
4. If you really felt you couldn't get out, it's 5:30 in the morning and you are just getting in so tilt the seat back, take a nap and hope the dog is gone when you wake up.

In short, there are lots of things that could have been done before pulling out your gun. Hope that all the lessons were learned this time.
 
A major lesson not learned is:

Drunks have poor situational awareness and their threat avoidance skills suffer in porportion to the amount of booze consumed!
 
Am I missing something or is there a purpose to having a gun cocked and locked without a round in the chamber? With no round in the chamber, wouldn't you have to pull the slide back which would accomplish the gun being cocked?

It takes less effort to rack the slide and chamber a round when the hammer is cocked.
 
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