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Toddler killed after gun falls and discharges

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  1. Average Guy

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    Toddler killed after gun falls and discharges
    Monday, January 6, 2003 Posted: 6:06 AM EST (1106 GMT)

    http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/01/06/toddler.killed.ap/index.html

    DETROIT, Michigan (AP) -- A 21-month-old boy was fatally shot when he tipped over a laundry hamper containing a handgun that discharged, police said.

    Yolanda Hode, 23, told police a .32-caliber pistol was in a clothes basket her son, Damon Quarker, was playing with Saturday night. She said the gun went off when Damon pulled the basket down off of a plastic container.

    The boy was struck on the left side of the chest, Officer Thaxon Hill said. He was taken to St. John's Hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

    Damon and his mother lived with her parents, who were watching television in the living room at the time.

    The gun belonged to a family member, homicide inspector Craig Schwartz told the Detroit Free Press for a story in Monday's editions.

    Police will report to the Wayne County Prosecutor's Office, which will decide whether to file charges.

    In 2002, 26 children 16 and younger were killed in the city; 17 died of gunshots, Wayne County medical examiner records show.
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    Does this sound like pure, unadulterated BS to anyone else? My gut reaction is that someone negligently shot the kid, then made up the story.* Or are those "cheap pot-metal Saturday Night Special" .32s prone to drop-discharges? :scrutiny:


    *I was in the ER one night when a guy came in with a bullethole in his hand. He told a deputy that some guys pulled up and shot at him. My first thought was, "He shot himself." Which, as it turns out, was exactly what happened. Occam's Razor, anyone?
     
  2. Ledbetter

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    Makes you go Hmmmmmmm.

    Sure would like to know what kind of pistol. Wouldn't be surprised if it passed the California drop test.
     
  3. dinosaur

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    The real story will come out once Detroit detectives get done. Nobody buys this kind of story.
     
  4. Bartholomew Roberts

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    You see the problem is that the gun didn't have an internal lock - because if it had an internal lock then doubtless the same moron that stores his gun in a clothes hamper and lets children play with said hamper unattended, would have availed himself of the locking device.

    And of course the same manufacturer that makes guns that "go off" when subjected to the infamous clothes hamper drop test, would never have such a lock fail :rolleyes:
     
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    :rolleyes: Where is the BS meter ?
     
  6. 4v50 Gary

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    I'd like to know whether this gun was striker fired or had an external hammer. That will help sniff out a lot of B.S. I doubt if a striker in a striker fired handgun would have sufficient energy to dentonate a primer. On a gun with an external hammer, it would have to be cocked and the sear "slipped."
     
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    >>Yolanda Hode, 23, told police a .32-caliber pistol was in a clothes basket her son, Damon Quarker, was playing with Saturday night. She said the gun went off when Damon pulled the basket down off of a plastic container. <<

    Right Yolanda, sure... and a nice shot to the chest too....

    How much you wanna bet that when the cops nail Yolanda for murder or manslaughter it does not get the same level of reporting.
     
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    Once again a kid is dead and an idiot is sitting home watching TV :banghead:
     
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    When the obviously B.S. story is proven to be such, how much ya wanna bet CNN doesn't report one word about it?
     
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    It never fails. :fire: :( :banghead:
     
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    Wonder how many of those 17 young Detroiters got shot for shorting a customer on a dime bag?
     
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    Irresponsible parenting, Adult supervision.
    Media now, what about when truth revealed.

    Tamara good pt. Stats-consider source, 'course society's fault kids buying dime bag's in first place--yeah right.
     
  13. MeekandMild

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    Usually the story is the kid drowned in a mop bucket or pulled a pan of hot grease from the stove.
     
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    An anonymous police officer commented, "Riiiiight."

    I said much the same to the friend who forwarded the story to me originally. I sent her to the source, Detroit Free Press, for the better story. Which makes Yolanda's story even less believable. Don't miss the heartwrenching title.

    http://www.freep.com/news/locway/shot6_20030106.htm
     
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    The best one was the woman (forget her name if I ever knew it) who spoke at the Million Mom March about her son who had been "accidentally" killed by someone with a gun while he was "helping move" a television set out of someone's apartment. I believe that this is the same woman who was, herself, later arrested on a firearms-related charge.

    Anyone remember this woman? Wasn't she arrested on a homicide charge? Or am I perpetuating an urban myth?
     
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    Stinks of a coverup to me. What kind of folks keep a loaded weapon on the laundry hamper?

    Either way mom should do some time over this one.

    Good Shooting
    RED
     
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    Should be an easy investigation.

    If gun fired from drop, powder marks on floor and upwardly directed wound channel should indicate.

    It does sound fishy to me, but it is not impossible.

    As the father of a precious 13 month old boy, it is hard to contemplate such a thing. Now that he is becoming mobile, gun storage is becoming an issue.
     
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    Maybe the gun was dirty, we all know how them dirty guns have a tendency to kill people.

    waterdog
     
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    Don't forget that bullets have been known to grow legs and crawl back up into the chamber of unloaded guns and that guns also fire themselves occasionally!!

    Really is a sad story though...:cuss:
     
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    Remember the movie true lies, when Jaime Lee Curtis dropped the machine pistol down the stairs and it took out several thugs? Now that was a riot!
     
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    I can't understand why you guy have a hard time believing the story.
    The gun was dropped, and it did go off. A small tid-bit of information you over looked, it dropped with the kid in the basket, with the kids finger on the trigger. When the gun hit the ground, with kids finger on the trigger, the trigger finger pushed the trigger back to fire the gun.
    See, it makes sense now!:rolleyes:
    Hey by the way, Airwolf, I love that BS meter.:D
     
  23. madkiwi

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    I noticed the following BS line from the Free Press article:

    First off, it is not "Gun violence"- that is like saying "Terrorism is the leading cause of death in Israel". It means nothing.

    Gunshots might be the second-leading source of TRAUMA deaths, but I believe plenty of diseases cause more deaths.

    No time now to completely vent- laters...

    madkiwi
     
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    Yeah, the gun fell and just went off all by itself, and it's going to rain nickels later this evening, too. </sarcasm>
     
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    Not exactly. Seems like it's been adulterated a few times....
     
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