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Took the plunge

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by AmbulanceDriver, Jul 7, 2006.

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  1. AmbulanceDriver

    AmbulanceDriver Member

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    And picked up my first C&B revolver. It's an Uberti Remington 1858, absolutely beautiful. Can't wait to get time for a range trip (hopefully next weekend) to try her out. :)
     
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    ENJOY IT!
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  3. Snowdog

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    You gotta love the French... if it's worth saying, it's worth saying LOUD! :D


    I bought my Pietta steel-frame 1858 Remington replica a few years ago from Cabela's for a sweet price. I still think, cleaning aside, this is one of my favorite handguns to shoot. I get a kick of the .454 round ball's ballistics... over 30gr of Pyrodex Pistol, it'll blast through a pressure treated 2x4 with ease at 10 feet, but will leave a shallow dent in the same board at 100 yards.
    I've been meaning to buy some conicals for this revolver for some time, but keep forgetting....

    Anyway, you'll enjoy your new BP revolver I'm sure!
     
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    Bien sur mes amis - mais je suis ANGLAIS!

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  5. timothy75

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    Congrats! I recently bought the same gun and couldnt be happier. 30-40grs is no sweat and get#10's not #11's which will fall off. Have fun you WILL love it.
     
  6. Manyirons

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    What Duncan's sayin in that purty high brow talk is he's what the frenchies call a Bouef or somethin like that!
     
  7. mec

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    I predict another happy camper here.
     
  8. AmbulanceDriver

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    my only unhappiness right now is that i haven't had the opportunity to take her out to the range yet to smell that beautiful FFFg.... :) I have a feeling that the 1 lb canister I bought won't be *NEARLY* enough. *grin*
     
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    Don't know what kind of loads you are going to shoot, but I only got 200 shots with my 1858 out of one pound of Goex. So no, it won't be enough, you can never have enough! :)
     
  10. AmbulanceDriver

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    I'm probably gonna start with fairly moderate loads, say 20-25 grains of Goex. Manual states 30 grains is the max, 18 grains for target using round balls. Slightly lower limits for conicals. I'll give that a whirl, but of course, once i get a feel for her, i'll have to run at least one cylinder of 30 grains per chamber. :)
     
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    I was shooting 35 gr. in mine, with a couple of loads at 40 gr. for the fun of it. 35 was more accurate that 40.
     
  12. mec

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    are some velocities with various loads in a Uberti 58/ This is a fairly "fast" revolver and results will vary among guns, loading procedures and components. None of these loads are over pressure or dangerous: First number is velocity for 5-6 rounds. second number is the extreme spread per string. loading 40 grains requires a great deal of compression and is hard on the loading lever. minimum loads should be judged by whether or not the ram is long enough to seat the ball down on the powder (including whatever wads or fillers)
    Load .454 Ball
    28 Grain Pyrodex P 966 54
    28 Grain Goex FFFg 795 31
    28 Grain Swiss FFFg 959 32
    35 Grain Swiss FFFg 1089 33
    40 Grains Swiss FFFg 1104 37
    40 Grains Pyrodex P 1125 35
    *35 Gr/Vol. H777 1061 28
    180 Grain Traditional Bullet
    28 Gr/Vol. Pyrodex P 896 74
    28 Grains Goex FFFg 712 45
    28 Gr/vol. Swiss FFFg 962 68
    200 Grain Lee Bullet .452
    22 Grain/Vol. Pyrodex 777 14
    28 Grain Goex FFFg 764 41
    22 Grain Swiss FFFg 785 44
    fps=feet per second
     
  13. Choctaw

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    mec,

    You wouldn't happen to have similiar information for a Pietta 1858, would you?
     
  14. mec

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    Not exactly. I recall that our Pietta- a 30 year old stainless example turned in somewhat lower velocities than the Uberti but velocities that were comparable to what we were getting with a Uberti 60 army. This Uberti remington is fast compaired to several .44s. I wouldn't expect anybody's revolver to do exactly like any other but the loads above coupled with these are a reasonable ball park. figures in BOLD indicate similar loads with indicated variations in the loading process, results with different revolvers or the same load as clocked on different days.

    Loads with 1860 army replicasLoads 140-141 Grain Ball Velocity Energy
    28 Grains Goex FFFg Second Generation Colt 822 55
    28 Grains Goex FFFg Uberti 871 104

    35 Grains Goex FFFg Second Generation Colt 855 37
    35 Grains Swiss Uberti 1031 48
    Same Load Different Day 1020 34


    40 Grains Goex FFFg 992 3440 grains Goex FFFg with Wonder Wad 94230
    40 Grains Swiss FFFg 1042 49
    40 Grains Swiss FFFg with Wonder Wad 105580

    22 Gr/Vol. Pyrodex P .457" 725 25
    22 Gr/Vol. Pyrodex P .454" 712 27
    28 Gr/Vol. Pyrodex P 841 54
    35Gr/Vol. Pyrodex P
    Same load Different day 1047 116
    35 Gr/Vol Pyrodex P with Wonder Wad 1055 69
    35 Gr/vol Pyrodex P different Day 1046 77

    28 Gr/Vol American Pioneer 506 57
    180 Grain Bullet Dixie Mould
    28 Gr/Vol. Pyrodex P 821 50
    28Gr/Vol Goex FFFg 649 81
    200 Grain Lee Conical
    28 Gr/Vol. Pyrodex P 967 46
    35 Grains Goex FFFg 753 46
     
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