Loading and unloading the single action was too tedious and the cylinder sometimes binds up with certain brands of ammo after shooting a while(just from crud). I also don't shoot it as well as I would like. I saw a 617 last week and after several days of mulling it over and watching youtube videos on the 617, I decided to trade in my single ten. Luckily the owner of the shop was there and gave me a good trade in price for my ruger single ten $450. (The Single Nine 22 magnum I bought a few months before back then in 2013 was $470 so it must have been priced similarly). Of course MRSP has now gone up to $839. The 617 was priced at $800 so i spent $350 plus the fulltax on the new gun. I noticed that the regular employees are more convervative in the trade in values as I suspect they don't want to get called out by the owner for overpaying for a used gun. I hope the 617 lives up to it's hype. At least it will be cheaper to practice double action shooting without staging compared to shooting 38 specials out of my 586. I will probably replace rebound slide spring later on. I will try to go to the range this weekend.