Tragic but interesting local shooting (MN)

[Madcap_Magician]

Police report linked here in local news report.

Synopsis:
Victim's family was home in a rural neighborhood when a truck pulled into their driveway. A female witness, related to the victim, went to investigate and saw the driver hiding by the victim's detached garage. She returned to the house and told the victim, who armed himself and went to investigate and was shot at least once in the arm (second injury to the torso but may have come from the same bullet) as he approached the truck and driver. The shooter fled.

Victim passed away as a result of the arm wound severing an artery, resulting in uncontrolled bleeding.

Shooter was apprehended by responding deputies and city officers.

One big clear takeaway was the importance of learning how to control severe blood loss. The victim's peripheral limb wound could have potentially not been fatal if his family members had had the training and supplies to rapidly tourniquet his arm.

Another potential takeaway is the danger inherent in investigating prowlers. Once the family member observed that the shooter was hiding on their property, it was probably not prudent to investigate personally.

It did turn out that the shooter and his family are known to the victim and his family, but it wasn't known if the victim or his family had identified the shooter prior to the shooting taking place.

 

[N555]

Nope don't give up cover and concealment, let them come to you.

 

[The Night Rider]

It's been said but the most important takeaway is don't leave the safety of your home to investigate.

Do that and the odds of you needing a tourniquet decrease sharply.

 

[Good Ol' Boy]

First two posts nail it.

I live super rural but I'm not going out to investigate anything. If somethings trying to get in my house I'm fully prepared for that.

To be fair, I don't have a farm or livestock so maybe that calls for a different approach sometimes, IDK. I would think it might.

 

[Good Ol' Boy]

ETA, if my dog won't come to the back porch when I let her out at night I do occasionally have to go out and investigate. One time she was in a stare down with a bobcat. Luckily once the beam from my 3,5k lumen light lit things up the cat booked it, with my dog hot on the heels.

I was unarmed that time. Lesson learned.

So yeah occasionally I do check the property at night, but its pet related. And I'm always armed now.

If the dogs inside im not going out to investigate anything, four legged or two legged.

 

[hso]

First Aid training - check

Stay in the fort - check

 

[citizenconn]

I live in a suburb north of Houston (and the suburbs here are getting more dangerous than inside the city limits), on a relatively quiet street. No way I am going out to investigate. I honestly need to get more surveillance cameras around my perimeter.
When my wife lived here she would not answer any doors no matter who it was unless they called to let her know they were outside. We also put bells with different rings on every door going outside so we could clearly hear if anyone was trying to get in any door and which one it was.

The dog is very good at distinguishing known, safe people and vehicles and will absolutely tear up any intruders into the perimeter (sorry pool guy.)

You always think, oh it won't happen in my neighborhood, but a few years ago, a street over from my house, a guy forced his way into his ex-wife's house and tied up his 3 kids and the baby sitter, looking for his ex-wife. When he found out she wasn't there he shot the kids and babysitter. Sheriff deputies were able to intercept and shoot him minutes later on his way to the wife's parents' house just down the road. A neighbor near his former house recognized his vehicle and knew what a danger he was and where he was likely headed next and called the cops, unfortunately too late to save the kids and babysitter.

 

[TarDevil]

My daughter came to my bedroom, hysterical that some pervert was trying to come through her window. Sent her to my wife's bedroom with instructions to call 911. I kept watch in the hallway with gun in hand until the constables arrived to deal with the outdoors.
I have the advantage inside.

 

[old lady new shooter]

I live in a suburb north of Houston (and the suburbs here are getting more dangerous than inside the city limits), on a relatively quiet street. No way I am going out to investigate. I honestly need to get more surveillance cameras around my perimeter.
When my wife lived here she would not answer any doors no matter who it was unless they called to let her know they were outside. We also put bells with different rings on every door going outside so we could clearly hear if anyone was trying to get in any door and which one it was.

The dog is very good at distinguishing known, safe people and vehicles and will absolutely tear up any intruders into the perimeter (sorry pool guy.)

You always think, oh it won't happen in my neighborhood, but a few years ago, a street over from my house, a guy forced his way into his ex-wife's house and tied up his 3 kids and the baby sitter, looking for his ex-wife. When he found out she wasn't there he shot the kids and babysitter. Sheriff deputies were able to intercept and shoot him minutes later on his way to the wife's parents' house just down the road. A neighbor near his former house recognized his vehicle and knew what a danger he was and where he was likely headed next and called the cops, unfortunately too late to save the kids and babysitter.

Horrible.

 

[FTG-05]

Two words: Stop the Bleed class. Take one.

 

[Old Dog]

I didn't always think this way (even after taking combat medical classes in the military back in the day), but I've arrived at the point where I think that if one carries a firearm -- to be prepared -- one should absolutely be prepared for dealing immediately with injuries and wounds. Almost all of the major firearms training facilities now offer courses either exclusively dealing with emergency medical care or incorporating it in with the gun training courses. Often, you can find these stand-alone emergency medical classes locally for very low cost. Worth it, even if you never have to use the knowledge...

 

[.38 Special]

As a young man, I would go stumbling around outside, in the dark, with a gun, any time my wife "heard something". As an old man, when my wife "hears something", I wait for it to come in. So far, it never has.

 

[Jackiesman]

I didn't always think this way (even after taking combat medical classes in the military back in the day), but I've arrived at the point where I think that if one carries a firearm -- to be prepared -- one should absolutely be prepared for dealing immediately with injuries and wounds. Almost all of the major firearms training facilities now offer courses either exclusively dealing with emergency medical care or incorporating it in with the gun training courses. Often, you can find these stand-alone emergency medical classes locally for very low cost. Worth it, even if you never have to use the knowledge...

Knowledge is like a reliable weapon - you don’t need it until you need it. And like the same weapon- get it now and keep current. I taught first aid in the late 60’s - early 70’s. Now that’s old stuff and both needs and methods are different. I’m going to get a refresher course.