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Treasury Dept wants Rock River carbines

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Slater, Nov 5, 2008.

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  1. Slater

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    Sounds like the RRA comes standard with a two stage trigger, which is what they're specifying.

    I am more concerned as to why this branch of the Treasury, or any branch for that matter, needs AR15 carbines. Is this yet another branch of the .gov with its own police force?

    http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/
     
  3. hags

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    For duty or defense I dont' think the RRA fire control group is superior by any means.
    Modified, it' one of the best two stage target triggers for the money.

    I too don't understand why the Treasury department needs ARs.
     
  4. ilbob

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    can't they get M16/M4s from the army like every other police force in the country?
     
  5. 351 WINCHESTER

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    The Treasury dept. needs ar's because it's the fed's job to spend our hard earned money. Personally I think it's part of their "plan" to arm all agencies "for that day".
     
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    The IRS is under Treasury. They have to have a way to collect the taxes, don't they?
     
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    I imagine they investigate fraud and counterfiting. And groups performing such actions are probably more organized than the 2 idiots about to rob a 7-11.

    The only problem I have with it is it will make Rocks even harder to get.
     
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    I really should be in the market of manufacturing ARs right now
     
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    Don't those government clowns know...

    RRA is a POS?
    Obviously those government clowns haven't seen "THE CHART"! :D
     
  10. Logan5

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    I thought the Secret Service investigated fraud and counterfeiting?

    AFAIK, Bureau of the Public Debt sells Treasury bills, notes, and bonds, mostly by mail with the transactions being done at retail banks. They have a lot of accountants, and also do a lot of administrative support for other agencies. It's news to me that they have anyone with badges.

    I can only assume that investor protection is getting much more demanding in this market.
     
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    Is the ATF still under the Treasury Department? That's the only branch of the Treasury that I could see having a use for them... even if that use is bogus.
     
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  12. Hoppy590

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    ya the courts.

    they dont need to be kicking in doors.
     
  13. Hoppy590

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    nope, now Homeland security or DOJ i forget which
     
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    I sent this email to the main "point of contact" at the bottom of the page:

    "I am a concerned citizen. Would you provide me the intent of use that the Bureau of Public Debt has for these weapons, and what part of U.S. Code sanctifies this intent?

    Thank you for your swift response."

    It'll be interesting to see if i get an answer.
     
  15. jeff-10

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    I would imagine they are using the RRA carbines to guard there facilities. I don't mind the government buying weapons with my tax $, I just have a problem when they don't want me to buy the same weapons.
     
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    Treasury used to include both the ATF and Secret Service, and I think ran FLETC also (might be wrong on that). I think all that went to Homeland Security, though. I'm not entirely sure what they have left that would need patrol carbines with door kicker accessories.

    Edit to add -- Don't the RRA two-stage triggers have a reputation for wearing out at fairly low round counts? (Or didn't they at one point? Not flaming RRA -- I use one of their lowers on my AR and am happy with it, but seems like I read a good deal of bad press on their non-USGI trigger options.)
     
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    "I am a concerned citizen. Would you provide me the intent of use that the Bureau of Public Debt has for these weapons, and what part of U.S. Code sanctifies this intent?


    The answer to the question is:


    Its mission is to borrow the money needed to operate the federal government, account for the resulting public debt,



    Whenever anyone does business of this magnitude the check is cut by Treasury from the agency's funds.

    Is the ATF still under the Treasury Department? That's the only branch of the Treasury that I could see having a use for them... even if that use is bogus.

    ATF is now under DOJ. ATF investigates a lot of firearms violations by biker gangs. I don't think having a M4 when you're going up against a biker gang that has AKs, M16s, or other weapons to protect their meth lab is bogus. DHS-OIG (Office of Inspector General) is listed as place of performance which may be the end user.
     
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    DHS should be abolished, the IRS should be abolished, two of the biggest wastes of taxpayer money going.

    I'm going to guess that's an attempt at humor, but I couldn't agree more.
     
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    I don't know whether you'll get an answer but I'm sure you'll now get on "the list". :what:
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    Has anyone thought that maybe these rifles aren't actually for the Bureau of Public Debt, but they are just acting as the centralized procurement office for a number of Treasury agencies. These rifles might be for U.S. Mint police, Bureau of Engraving and Printing, or IRS CI.
     
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    Don't know about that didn't a group try counterfeiting pennies?
     
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    you dont need to counterfeit pennies to make it a loosing proposition.... last i heard the US gov pays 1.4 cents to make a penny.
     
  23. kcmarine

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    For? If they want to put me on a list, there's an extending part of my body they can inhale.

    I'm not being cute either. I pay taxes (yes, at 17, you do). I want to know what is being done with those taxes. To be completely honest, I don't see why all of these agencies need enforcement arms. That's the FBI's job.
     
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    The Secret Service quite obviously needs to be well armed, and there are other branches of the Treasury that need guns as well. That is why your hard earned tax dollars are buying Rock River arms.
     
  25. HorseSoldier

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    Secret Service no longer falls under Treasury. They're Homeland Security nowadays.
     
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