Trophy hunting vs sport hunting

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H&Hhunter said:
Sorry Jack I must have misread what you wrote.
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Yes that is what I said.I said nothing about people not being allowed to do it.You have been saying for hours now that I have been againt others doing it...I can't figure out why someone wants to go to an opera,or ballet,but that does not mean I am trying to say they should not exist..Maybe you can educate me on why I might want to,or even should desire to hunt zebras,and giraffe..After all you are the expert..This has gotten out of hand,and I'm not going to have any more to do with this stupid bickering,so you win
 
JackSprat said:
Yes that is what I said.I said nothing about people not being allowed to do it.You have been saying for hours now that I have been againt others doing it..This has gotten out of hand,and I'm not going to have any more to do with this stupid bickering,so you win
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Absolutely, equivocally, one hundred percent, incorrect Jack. I have not once even hinted that you said anybody was against anything. You sir are apparently orbiting in another solar system.
 
My personal opinion is hunt as you like, shoot what you WANT, and enjoy it to the fullest. The animals we hunt die so we can harvest them, it would be disrespectful to do any less. As long as the meats consumed i see no waste. From my understanding pretty much all paid trophy hunts have ways to process the meat should the hunter not want it.

If a trophy animal, of any stripe, would be more rewarding to the individual hunter than one that isnt, In my opinion it would be disrespectful to take the non-trophy untill every effort has been expended to get exactly the animal desired. Flip side, which is where i fall, If i shoot a real "trophy" class animal its not likely ill get the enjoyment out of it that some one who REALLY wanted it will. Thats mostly why I pass on bucks and rams etc, unless it looks like im going home empty handed.

Just my personal feelings on the mater.......
 
I hunt hard in our 3 months of gun season in Eastern NC. We have a large population of smallish whitetails and are allowed up to 4 bucks and 4 doe. 6 total are legal and you can buy your tags again if you limit out for a dollar. I will kill a doe early for meat and horn hunt through the rut. My personal rule is if I shoot a buck I will boil the head and European mount it. I am much more of a meat hunter though and kill does at a rate of 3:1 to bucks. That is just how m it has seemed to work out. Not a lot of guys at my hunt club kill does and we are thick with deer so it doesnt seem to be an issue. Horn hunting does get you watching a lot more deer and I believe a sense of the health of your herd. I always say hunting means watching a lot of deer, it is not just killing.
 
It depends for me. Sometimes I will kill everything I can with out picking and choosing and never intending to eat a single bite, like poisoning rats for example. Other times the only shooting I do is with a camera, so I can at least keep the image of something magnificent. Sometimes animals are picked based on how I think they would better serve me as food.
 
I will hold out for a nice buck through rut, but if it gets down around thanksgiving and I am offered an easy shot.....it's on.
I know the weather will break, the deer will be less active, the bucks will withdraw, the does herd up, the river that disects our property gets to be an issue, etc, etc.

You know what they say.....
Don't pass on a deer the first day, that you're willing to take on the last day.
I don't completely agree with this, but food for thought anyway.

My oldest didn't get b a deer at all this year. My youngest and I took decent 9pt and 8pt.
 
Here in Kansas I do both. I killed a fat doe for the freezer during a special doe season in October and hunted trophies in December. I really large 10 point definite trophy buck walked within 80 yards of my blind and my brother missed him..........aaaarrrrgggg! I hunted for a buck the rest of the season, but never got another chance. I have no beef with trophy hunters.
 
The elk herds during migration have numbered over 8,000 head in Northern Wyoming. The Prong Horn travel in fast moving herds. Mule deer are herding animals. Wolves run in packs.
Many animals like humans are communal creatures.:D
 
I have slowed way down on deer hunting. I like to get out, and I love the feeling of being successful. But afterwards, I look at the 6 pt buck and ask myself why I bothered? I give most of the meat away after it is processed by a butcher (which costs money), so I wonder where I am in the sport in general. I switched to handgun only but still have the same feelings about scoring. The challenge interests me a lot, but the meat interests me zero.
 
Meat is the priority, I'm a small-scale gastronome in my own right, love to cook and meat I've hunted myself is a matter of principle. On some occasions I do go trophy hunting on purpose but that's fairly rare and limited to hunting trips abroad. I have pretty much all the trophies I really want (still missing a cougar full mount, though) and practical issues like having run out of wall space in rooms my wife lets me keep them is a consideration. I prefer one of each -principle instead of filling all available space with shoulder mounts of same species.

Arming yourself with camera, as some already have pointed out, can be very intriguing every now and then, especially when your freezer is already full or you've ran out of tags for the season and still love spending time outdoors. Like all hunters do.
 
i hunt here and in other countries and any thing i take is used completly, these men were glad to get the meat,by the way zebra taste good and so was the buffalo and they eat them right up to the hoof,s. eastbank.
 

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so I wonder where I am in the sport in general. I switched to handgun only but still have the same feelings about scoring.
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Sounds like on your way out of the sport. If you have decent equipment and know how to use it the challenge is pretty much over once you are on target and start squeezing your trigger finger.

If that's the part you like and don't care about meat, trade the powder burner for a camera. No "shame" in that, I have lots more photos of animals I have "had" than I have actually pulled the trigger on.

For me getting this photo was more of a challenge than it would have been to kill any of the subjects.
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thats a nice bird. Ive just found a way that I really like wild turkey, so they are back on my shoot list :D
 
kbbailey said:
Now wait just a minute....that's the first thing we eat from a deer.
Carefully remove those loins and slice about an inch thick medallions, pop them on the grill until medium rare. Serve with creamy horseradish sauce, and a celebratory beer.

A great tradition.
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As the old maid said when she kissed the cow - to each their own. I cut the loin into about 3 inch steaks, marinate them overnight in beer (a very dark lager TYVM) with just a hint of garlic then wrap them in bacon and broil. I've only had one person refuse to eat them that way and that was my (then) anti-hunting mother in law and that was a long time ago..
 
Marinate them in Italian dressing for an hour and pop em on a hot grill, best done rare......ok i admit, im lazy, and do this with every cut if i cant think of other stuff to make. Works great on sheep and goats too.

And if yall dont mind im gonna try both those recipes
 
Well I use Bourbon for drinking, medicine and starting fires. We also use it for cooking. I pound the venison steaks out with a meat hammer. The marinate in made with fresh garlic, sea salt and Bourbon. Use a good Bourbon or Jack Daniels sour mash. For a mild flavor let stand a few hours. If you like lots of flavor over night.:thumbup:
 
Dog Soldier said:
Well I use Bourbon for drinking, medicine and starting fires. We also use it for cooking. I pound the venison steaks out with a meat hammer. The marinate in made with fresh garlic, sea salt and Bourbon. Use a good Bourbon or Jack Daniels sour mash. For a mild flavor let stand a few hours. If you like lots of flavor over night.:thumbup:
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...so then you drink the marinade.?
 
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