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Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Alvin York, Jul 20, 2004.

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  1. Alvin York

    Alvin York Member

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    I'm looking for a new range gun that I can keep in the pickup. I don't want anything fancy and don't want to pay an arm and leg for it. I'd be happy if it was in .30 but be willing to settle for something in the 6mm or 7mm range. Any suggestions?

    :scrutiny:
     
  2. TallPine

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    EAA Saiga 7.62*39
     
  3. pauli

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    do you have a prefered action type? size restriction? materials preference?
     
  4. Omaha-BeenGlockin

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    The one I've really been taking a close look at is the Marlin 336Y Spikehorn----these are REALLY small with 5+1 shots of .30-30 power.

    Resonably priced-------fast handling----fairly cheap ammo---won't spook the sheeple----not a huge loss if stolen----although any loss would be a bitter pill.
     
  5. Alvin York

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    action size

    bolt or lever would be fine, carbine length would be acceptable but could be flexable in that.
     
  6. R.H. Lee

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    Big 5 has some M44's on sale right now for $79.
     
  7. Alvin York

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    availability of ammo

    That's not a bad idea but where do I get the Russian ammo that is fit for sport use? ie; soft point hunting rounds? I know there is alot of mil surplus out there but haven't seen too much in sporting rounds.
     
  8. Turk

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    I think one of the best truck guns is the SKS.

    I carry a SKS paratrooper model in my truck and a regular SKS model in my SUV with 100 rounds. The AK/SKS (7.62x39) family are not my favorite but for cost and realibility the SKS works. Lets face it if your truck gets ripped off won't you much wheter lose a $100.00-150.00 SKS than an AR./L1A1 etc.

    Also if you know you're going to a gun fight take a rifle.

    Turk
    Vietnam Vet. against Kerry

    Remember to pray for our troops
     
  9. R.H. Lee

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    I haven't looked into it, because I don't have anything that shoots 7.62x54R, but don't Barnaul and Wolf both produce this Russkie round?
    I know you can get both in 7.62x39 soft point and hollow point.
     
  10. 1911Tuner

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    Truck Rifle

    Castin' a vote for a lever rifle...Doesn't draw unwanted attention like a rifle with a box magazine or eveil flash supressor or bayonette lug.
    30-30 or .44 magnum caliber is good...If you want shorter than
    carbine-lenght, the Winchester M-94 Trapper model is available.
    (Well..okay. In a pistol caliber, it's technically a Model 92, but I
    ain't gonna nit-pick)

    Lends itself to shoot one/load one drill while in-battery...the 30-30
    is amply powrful to handle about anything short of the big bears, and
    ammo is cheap and available about everywhere you look.

    You can install a Lyman tang-mounted peep sight for those longer shots,
    and it folds down automatically when the lever is worked. Neat! I've
    got a set-up like that on a Trapper 30-30 that will bust milk jugs out to
    150 yards, and stay on a B-27 at 200 if I do my part. No, a 30-30 ain't
    exactly a powerhouse, but a 170-grain bullet is guaranteed to ruin a man's
    day clean out to 400 yards if you can hit him with it...and don't laugh about
    that range with a '94 Winchester until you play with it a little and learn the rifle.

    A nylon butt-cuff that holds 10 rounds affords a simple way to carry
    ammo, and costs about 3 bucks. I use a staple gun to anchor it.

    Luck!

    Tuner
     
  11. M2 Carbine

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    I keep M1 Carbines in my cars and truck.

    I think my next choice would be the SKS, especially if it was subject to get beat up a bit.
     
  12. Cosmoline

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    I tried out a number of truck guns, but the best one was a K-31 Schmidt-Rubin. Ammo is somewhat $$ but getting better. But the big advantage was the magazine. Under local law only CCW weapons or those in the glove box can be kept loaded. The K-31 mag allows the rifle to be loaded in a second. It's much slower to load and unload a lever action or Mauser.
     
  13. Shooter973

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    I have a good used 30-30 that makes a great truck gun., I bought it used from a pawn shop. Looked kinda ratty on the out side. had been neglected and rusted some but the insides were in great shape. Cleaned it up some and now it lives in my pick-up. Not something that I would feel to bad about if it was stolen or abused a little. Only cost about $140 or so and 30-30 is easily available anywhere. ;)
     
  14. Sylvilagus Aquaticus

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    M-N M44. Built to be abused behind the seat of a truck...or peasant wagon.

    It's the Timex of cheap rifles. Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'.

    Regards,
    Rabbit.
     
  15. mustanger98

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    Actually, no. The M-94 Trapper is in fact a 94 by design- the M92 don't have the toggle deal where the linkage unfolds out the botton side of the receiver. That was John M. Browning's idea.

    Ummm, no. I shoot both Ultramax's SASS/CAS cast lead loads and factory or handloads of JSPs. With the hunting loads, the recoil is sufficient to flip the sight down. Not so with the Ultramax CAS loadings- the sight stands up like it's supposed to.

    If you don't want that sight to flip down under recoil and slow down your follow-up shot, get a Lyman #66 aperture sight. It bolts to the left side of the receiver as is audible-click adjustable for windage and elevation.
     
  16. Moparmike

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    Do yall keep your truck gun loaded?
     
  17. 1911Tuner

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    M-92/M-94

    Quote:

    Actually, no. The M-94 Trapper is in fact a 94 by design- the M92 don't have the toggle deal where the linkage unfolds out the botton side of the receiver. That was John M. Browning's

    Picky picky picky...:p
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    And:

    Ummm, no. I shoot both Ultramax's SASS/CAS cast lead loads and factory or handloads of JSPs. With the hunting loads, the recoil is sufficient to flip the sight down. Not so with the Ultramax CAS loadings- the sight stands up like it's supposed.

    Never had that happen with mine...:scrutiny:
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    And:

    If you don't want that sight to flip down under recoil and slow down your follow-up shot.

    I figger that if I do my part, I won't need a follow-up shot at 150+ yards...
    and besides...if the rifle is used in an anti-personnel role, as some many truck rifles are intended, sittin' in the same place and takin a second shot is not the way to stay healthy...whether it flies wide of the mark or there are multiple antagonists. Shoot...and lay still, or move!

    Cheers!

    Tuner
     
  18. Nathanael_Greene

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    Depending on where exactly you live, a 30-30 might be a great choice. There are parts of Texas where the cops would be more amazed if you *didn't* have a 30-30 in the truck than if you did.
     
  19. Domino

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    My dad had a similar idea for a truck gun having stopped using his SKS he decided on a CZ 527 in 7.62X39. If your not familiar with them they can be viewed HERE . I've shot it quite a bit and seems pretty damn good. It is light and very handy but I can't manage to keep groups under an inch at 100 yards. Also it has a very nice trigger and box magazine for quick loading. With WOLF 154g pushing 2400 fps its quite a killer, a very nice carbine overall.
     
  20. GooseGestapo

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    YIKES !!!!!!

    STAPLING THE AMMO CARRIER TO THE BUTT STOCK ?????

    I like my leverguns FARRR to much to do that.

    I suggest installing a sling stud, poking a hole through the elastic ammo carrier, and reattaching the sling to the stud.

    Let the swivel stud hold the carrier !!!

    Actually I have numerous "TRUCK" guns.

    In no particular order:

    1. Remington m742 in .30/06 w/3x-9x scope. Bought for $100. Needed extensive clean up, dissembly and reassembly with locktite. Now shoots 3-shot groups to 1" at 100yds. Much superior to SKS! (has Cabelas steel 10shot magazine, w/ 150gr Rem Cor-lokts loaded over 48.5gr H4895 "its favorite load".)

    2. Marlin 336C in .35Remington. My favorite! Cost? $0.00 (Long story, don't ask!) Has 3x-9x scope too. Shoots 1.5" at 100yds with 200gr Cor-lokt at 2,250fps (H4895 too!). Kills deer and pigs DRT (dead right there!)

    3. Glenfield (Marlin) m30, .30wcf. Has Williams 5D rear sight and shoots 5-shots ~1" at 50yds with 160gr FNGC at 2,150fps. Sitting in back of P/U as I "type". Rifle was "expensive" at $150.00. Has 9rds in butt carrier, 4 in "4-shot" 1/2-length magazine. NO STAPLES !!!!

    4. Remington m870 12ga., w/20" slug barrel w/rifle-sights. Speaks for itself! Cost me $125.00 plus $20 to Brownells for replacement bolt carrier. Someone had dumped it at a pawn shop after they couldn't get gun put back together after shooting it once or twice. Came with 28"bbl w/rem-chokes. Already had 18" and 20" bbls on hand. Loaded with 1oz slugs, 5 "000" buck-shot loads in elastic butt carrier on sling-swivel (NO STAPLES !!!!)

    5. Remington m7 in .223. When I think I may be taking an extened stroll away from the vehicle and may want something that'll handle almost any situation. Has Leupold 2.5-8x Vari-X III, will shoot 5-shots to 1/2" at 100yds. "MIDGET VARMINT RIFLE !!!" Prefers Hornady 60gr S.Pt.s over H4198. Killed deer with neck shot while it faced me in '01. One shot, three entry and three exit wounds !!!! (neck, shoulder, ham !). DRT needless to say!

    6. Ruger Security-6, 4" Stainless Steel. Police trade-in I bought for $125.00. Need I say more?! I do all my .357mag shooting with this gun. Essentially indestructable! Always rides between the passenger seat and transmission hump on my Jeep. Just as rough-n-tough as the vehicle! More dependable too!


    ECT., Ect., ect.........................

    Come to think of it, most all my guns are "TRUCK" guns.

    Now, which one do I carry this week ?????????????????
     
  21. Alvin York

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    I was going to ask about the 336 in .35 Rem. I had heard that the .35 was a pretty good round for brush. What is its optimal range?
     
  22. Gunrunner

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    Alvin, I've never had a 35 Rem. but my Speer manual says it's good for deer out to 150 yards. I do like Marlin lever actions. I've had an 1894 in 44mag that has served me well for short range duty. Good accuracy out to 100 yards with handloads.
     
  23. JohnKSa

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    If the only thing that's holding you up on the M44 rifles is ammo availability, then wait no more.

    There's a good variety of 7.62x54R ammo on the market, and most of it is very reasonably priced.
     
  24. Redlg155

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    Couple hundred bucks will get you a Saiga.

    You can shoot all day long for very little money. Ammo is plentiful and available just about everywhere. You can get it in HP, SP and FMJ. Plus they are rugged and built on the AK action. A second quick follow up shot is a nice feature to have.

    The M44 or M38 is also nice. If you do get one, I'd highly suggest buying a box of good non corrosive ammo just for truck use. Save the cheap corrosive stuff for range use. You don't want to have to take your rifle out and clean it just because you shot off a round, something you'd have to do with cheap corrosive ammo. Spend ten bucks on a box of good ammo.

    With the 7.62 you can get 4 boxes of ammo for ten bucks! :D

    Good Shooting
    Red
     
  25. Gordon

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    My current POV truck gun(for the last year) is a MK 5 .303 british cut down into a nice sporter with a Lyman sight. The original Mk 5 prolly would be as good, but this one is lighter and so pretty. It rides in a Kolpin Atv case(lockable) with an extra load mag under the rear seat. I can pull it when I get out of truck and it being Kali and all , I keep the mags loaded with 8 rounds each and not attached to gun. I keep an extra box of the Federal high energy 180grain ammo it is sighted in for at 100yards.;)
     
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