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TRUE Double Action Only

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Onward Allusion, Nov 6, 2010.

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  1. Onward Allusion

    Onward Allusion Member

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    ...and not a revolver...

    Aside from the Beretta D's, Taurus line with double strike, SIG DAK, & the KT P11 - are there any other TRUE DAO semi-autos? I like the SIG but it's a bit pricey and the trigger is a bit light for my liking.

    I want a full-size 9mm or 40S&W semi-auto with a 8 to 10 lb trigger that has "second-strike" (hate that term). Any recommendations?
     
  2. 19-3Ben

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    There are a whole bunch of 3rd gen S&W's that were true DAO.
     
  3. Onward Allusion

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    The 5946 & 5946TSW I have are DAO but still require a 1/4" slide movement to re-engage.
     
  4. 10-96

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    The CZ100 is/was a true DAO. I think it has/had a pretty low pricetag as well. T'was a ruther neat lookin little critter.
     
  5. Owen

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    If you can actually find one, I think some Ruger P-series were made in true DAO. SIGs have also been made in DAO, or a DA/SA can be converted. (This is not the same as the DAK; the pull is heavier and longer, being the same as the first DA pull of the DA/SA, and there is only one pull option.)

    These actually fire from a preset (half cock) hammer and do not have "second strike." Otherwise they would have been my first suggestion.
     
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    Really? I thought they were straight up DAO.
    Wow. You learn something new every day!
    Thanks for droppin' a little knowledge on me!
     
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    The Sig 250 is double action only. It has a very smooth trigger pull, and can be changed to different calibers, barrel lengths, etc.
     
  9. Onward Allusion

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    Yeah - I thought so too. Since I don't usually dry fire and the thing has a mag disconnect, I didn't find out until I experienced a FTFire on my first 5946 at the range.


     
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    The Seecamp is DAO, and the only one I own.

    HK offers a DAO in the USP line.
     
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    Walther made some DAO P99s.
     
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    The original Walther P990, now called the P99 DAO, or the P99 AS (Anti-Stress) come to mind. I tend to like the AS action, myself.

    The S&W 3rd gen DAO guns do require the slide being retracted to "locate" the hammer on the sear and make it ready for firing.

    I remember chuckling during the Sig pistol armorer class when the instructor was discussing the differences between the original DAO and the Enhanced DAO (commonly called the DAK) ... and he said the original DAO was proof that even Sig could make a bad trigger. :D

    There are a lot of "DAO" type pistols available on the market. The definition of "true DAO" is pretty much open to individual interpretation, and if someone wants to take it to mean having "second strike" capability, there are some out there that have been designed to possess that capability.
     
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    Right now, someone is just dying to say Glock. :p
     
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    Beretta PX4 Storm type D

    Never mind. You mentioned that at the start.
     
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    I know the S&W 4506 is DA, but cannot remember if it is DA with second strike capability.
    Doesn't Paraordnance make the 1911 style in LDA?
     
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    The 4506 is a traditional double action model, meaning the first shot (or whenever the hammer is forward/uncocked) is DA and the subsequent shots are SA (whenever the hammer is cocked from slide cycling).
     
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    DAOs

    I have an HK P-2000sk which is DAO with restrike capabilities. Also my Para LDA has a sweet double action which has to be reset between strokes. Not being trite but I, while liking the feature, have felt that having the ability to pull the trigger more than once on a bad round is a little like having chromed mudflaps on a 747. "Cute, but why?" It can lull a shooter into muddying up the habit of "Tap-rack-bang" when/if a misfire might occur. I am too long in the tooth to remember too many sequential operations. The best DAO I have ever used...and, yes, once in a gunfight...is a Beretta 96D Centurion that was department issue in the 90s.
     
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    I have a CZ75DAO which is double action only.
     
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    Traditional DA/SA pistols usually have restrike ability, but the OP is looking for DAO.
     
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    Those of which I have first hand knowledge.
    Kel-Tec P11/P40
    S&W's new Bodyguard 380
    Ruger P89DAO (This one I was issued for 15 years)

    All DAO, all have second strike.
     
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    I have a Sig P250 9mm compact that is pure DAO. A revolver in a autoloading design. Simple and awesome
     
  23. Steve_NEPhila

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    I see no utility in "second strike capability" it is a bunch of marketing bollocks. If your pistol goes "click" then you should be doing the following:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfyULpEhmug

    If you want real and true double action, check out wheel guns. I know there is no "second strike" unless you pull the trigger enough times to make the cylinder turn all the way around.
     
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    Sig DAK is not DAO, it's kind of a hybrid DA/SA with a hammer that stays down, but the mechanism is cocked, similar to HK's LEM.
    Both Sig P series and the USP line can be had in true DAO as well.
    The Sig DA stroke is far better than the USP DA stroke IMO.
    The Ruger P-95 DAO that I fired had a very smooth DAO stroke, one of the best DAO's I've tried.
    Glock isn't DAO, much more than splitting hairs, it's very different from a traditional DAO hammer fired pistol.
     
  25. Onward Allusion

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    It isn't about double strike capability. That is a whole other debate. I simply like the the consistent pull of a heavy trigger.

    Glocks are fine but #1 - they aren't DAO #2 - the trigger is way too light for my tastes. I also like a hammer more than a striker, and I don't want anything with a safety or decocker. Right now I'm leaning toward the Beretta PX4 Type D in 40S&W.
     
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