Tucker Carlson, YouTuber Hickok45 smash stereotype that AR-15's are ‘weapons of war’

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Tommygunn said:
I like Tucker and Hickok 45 .... but this won't stop the antigunners from trying to ban guns, or from calling AR-15s "weapons of war" or perpetrating any lie that they think can advance their cause.
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Yup... None of the antigun types will even see the video. The video was just preaching to the choir. Like inviting a bunch of guys and gals who already do not think ARs are weapons of war into a room to tell them what they already know.
 
DocRock said:
I believe that the Hickocks and Tucker are incorrect in referring to a hand guard as a barrel shroud.
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They are closer than anyone referring any of my semiauto AR’s or full auto toys as “assault rifles”....
 
Tommygunn said:
Geee whizz, how many people know that about loading a crew served, belt fed M-60? I sure didn't !!! Maybe Hickok 45 did know, shoulda knowed better, but forgot.
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Whoever owned that 60 should have made sure Hickok knew how to load it without causing damage. Its been a half century since I worked on a 60. I heard that this problem has been fixed on the later M-60s. Don't know if this is true or not, just something I heard. To Hickok's credit he didn't beat on the cover very hard before he realized something was wrong.
 
I think some of you missed the tongue-in-cheek aspect of this video. I don't think this four month old video was ever intended to convert anyone. Rather, it was intended to show the arbitrary nature of gun control laws and the ignorance of the political class that makes these laws.

As for Tucker's understanding of the 2A, I'd say he's way ahead of most Americans. He uses his very large platform to advocate for the 2A every chance he gets. While being attacked by some of the most powerful members of America's political class. The Left is doing everything they can to try to cancel Tucker. But Tucker refuses to bow. That's way more than anyone hanging around here does for the 2A.....
 
Aim1 said:
I did not realize Hickok45 range was located in Alaska and that the range is so close to a busy road.......wow.
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Carlson's Alaska comment was a small joke, based on how cold it was out on the ridge. According to Wikipedia (not the most reliable source, but probably good enough for this item) about Hickock45, "Greg Kinman attended Austin Peay State University in Clarksville, Tennessee, where he played center position on the college basketball team for two seasons, ... Originally from Kentucky, Kinman lives in Cheatham County, Tennessee."

Craig
 
No, stuff like this is never going to change the minds of the anti's. It's not them we have to worry about. It's those somewhere in the middle, the undecideds that may have based their opinion on the nonsense fed to them by the media.
 
CraigC said:
No, stuff like this is never going to change the minds of the anti's.
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Right! And nothing they say is going to change our minds. If you read their literature, you can find a lot of similar sentiments about reasons that crush the justification for gun ownership...only theirs do nothing more to crush anything than ours do, LOL.
 
I'd be personally far more impressed with a 'left' media figure talking to Hickock than Carlson. Right now he (Carlson) is political plutonium, and it really isn't all that helpful when framing things for arguments against anti-gunners.
The interview a while back between Bill Maher and Colion Noir was a better opportunity, but he squandered that opportunity by frankly embarrassing himself. The Q/A debate afterwards left him looking like a babbling moron.
We are all Americans, left and right. We all want the best for the country, though our ideals what what that 'best' is may differ. Left or Right, putting forward a political hardline icon and/or talking in a 'line in the sand' fashion is not going to get either side anywhere when it comes to national unity.
 
Tucker & Hickok 45 are preaching to the choir, the Anti Democracy snowflakes wont hear it.
They choose to be ignorant, so I guess that borders on stupid, plus if they watched it they
couldn't comprehend what it means until they ask their college professors to interpret it
for them, they to be CONSOLED, when confronted with the constitution.
 
ACES&8S said:
They choose to be ignorant
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I'm not sure most anti-gunners are willingly ignorant, they have simply been brought up in a different system. I've 'converted' a few myself after bringing them into the gun world and showing them what we practice/preach. One of the most timid stereotypical liberal upper-class colleagues of mine ended up longing for a Model 10 of her own.
I'd also mention that as someone who teaches ENGR classes, not all professors/lecturers are anti-gun. Hell, I've included the original Mauser patent as an example in more than one class' materials.
 
P89DCSS said:
I think some of you missed the tongue-in-cheek aspect of this video. I don't think this four month old video was ever intended to convert anyone. Rather, it was intended to show the arbitrary nature of gun control laws and the ignorance of the political class that makes these laws.

As for Tucker's understanding of the 2A, I'd say he's way ahead of most Americans. He uses his very large platform to advocate for the 2A every chance he gets. While being attacked by some of the most powerful members of America's political class. The Left is doing everything they can to try to cancel Tucker. But Tucker refuses to bow. That's way more than anyone hanging around here does for the 2A.....
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The political class could care less. They want full control of us. That is why having a sensable argument with them is impossible.
 
Insignificant bill said:
The political class could care less. They want full control of us. That is why having a sensable argument with them is impossible.
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So you agree with Tucker and find his comments about barrel shrouds and arm braces especially funny too? If the political class could care less about out 2A rights that would amaze me. I feel as though they couldn't care less about our 2A rights but maybe you're right.
 
Chosen or willing to be ignorant , perhaps many are pushed into the decision that they will take the side of
actors they admire or swayed by college professors that have never defended their country in any way. In the
groups or friends they run with, they have to choose a side even if it is by being silent.
A growing number of Americans are: Lets use the word SWAYED to take a side against the 2'nd amendment.
Look into the future where the next generation after us is being swayed toward the idea that freedom of
speech should be restricted, with just restricting one word at a time or one idea at a time, then one religion, or
wearing a hat that says make America great again.
 
swg1 said:
Bugs me that the title to the article on the fox site is "Visits an infamous Tennessee Range". Words have meaning and impact. "Infamous" is not a word of positive connotation.
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Maybe the the title creator learned English from a Brit. Infamous to them is famous to us.
 
Agreed. That begs the question though, in what medium/forum would such a thing happen on the national scale?
There have been some collab efforts by youtubers over the years, but usually they are not big names. If they are big names then it is for memes not for any serious consideration.
In today's reality of a lack of consideration for political discourse, I almost think that anyone who 'switched sides' in terms of their stance on guns (or any other issue...) would lose all credibility with their base and be labeled a traitor/collaborator/sell-out. Again, that goes for both the left and the right.
 
ACES&8S said:
Chosen or willing to be ignorant , perhaps many are pushed into the decision that they will take the side of
actors they admire or swayed by college professors that have never defended their country in any way. In the
groups or friends they run with, they have to choose a side even if it is by being silent.
A growing number of Americans are: Lets use the word SWAYED to take a side against the 2'nd amendment.
Look into the future where the next generation after us is being swayed toward the idea that freedom of
speech should be restricted, with just restricting one word at a time or one idea at a time, then one religion, or
wearing a hat that says make America great again.
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It is truly disheartening to see succeeding generations so willing to give up their freedoms and scorn the system that was designed to protect, and the documents that codify, those freedoms. More and more it’s out of ignorance on their part, because it’s not taught, combined with those who would use that ignorance to further their own agenda for power. Free will and self governance is frightening to many people. It’s like trying to change the worldview of a victim of Stockholm Syndrome, or of one who has been institutionalized their whole lives.

Even many people that are considered “pro gun”, and are all about self defense, scoff at the idea of the true scope of the 2A, as though it were some radical, crazy taboo thing.
 
When I had my first H2H combat training session in boot camp the instructor made a clearly stated point. Anything you can fight with is a potential weapon of way. He pulled a plastic BIC pen out of his pocket and explained it could be used to inflict serious wounds. He went on about rocks, logs. Chains, etc, etc. he made his point, and I never forgot it even to this day. So when the “angels” condemn assault rifles “weapons of war” they fail to recognize one thing. Anything I assault an adversary with is a weapon. My instructor was carrying an “assault” pen. I once through my helmet at a VC. It became an assault helmet. I do not tolerate scary jargon. I prefer to explain the reality. A weapon becomes a weapon when you use anything as a weapon and not before. Makes no difference if in a war or street fight.
 
I think more people have seen Colion Noir's videos than Hickok45 at least on the anti-gun side. Since one of the so called "journalists" only gave Colion a couple hours to respond back while making a rebuttal article and erroneously fact-checked the video.

I honestly would've preferred Tucker going to any of the other gun-tubers who dive into the politics. I know Colion has been on his show once or twice. But even Tim from Millitary Arms Channel would've been I think a better choice. Nothing against Hickok and John, but they needed to present the arguement better in my mind that might have actually changed minds.
 
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