Tula primers????

Status
Not open for further replies.
G

gab909

Member
Joined
Jul 21, 2010
Messages
176
Did a search here and it didn't turn up much. Has anyone used the Tula Primer in Large Pistol? I see that it is Boxer and was looking at placing an order. I would like to get a couple cases to stock up on, since I will start reloading for the new Sig this weekend.
 
I've read they're produced in the same factories as Wolf, just packaged differently. I've read good things about Wolf, although some say they're a little tight fitting in some brass.
 
If they are the same as Wolf primers I'd pass. I bought a bunch of large rifle primers and was really disappointed in their inability to reliably ignite a propellant charge.
 
Hmm, lets see, wolf primers? Got a few thousand SPP that have around a 10% failure rate, got burned on those. None of them fit worth a crap in any pistol round I reload, all are hard as hell to seat. I dont think I would buy them at 18 dollars a K, to be honest, they can keep them.
 
Humm, I have used over 7,000 Wolf primers in the last year, SPP and LPP and have never had a failure, altho the LPP are a little harder to seat then others, other then that, I think they are just fine.
Floydster
 
Humm, I have used over 7,000 Wolf primers in the last year, SPP and LPP and have never had a failure, altho the LPP are a little harder to seat then others, other then that, I think they are just fine.
Floydster
Click to expand...

If you do a little searchin on the internet floyd, you will find that they have had a bad run of SPP. I ended up with some of them. It was pretty much the same with everyone that had them, around a 10% failure rate. Unfortunately after some people took advantage of them, they stopped offering to replace or make right on them. They cut it off about a week before I found out about it.

For all I know they may have all that fixed, and I am sure they do, but I wont spend my money on them again. With something like ammo, I wont take that chance again. I can pay another 1/2 a cent apiece to get name brand ones.
 
Haven't tried SPPs, but LPPs and SRPs have worked as well or better than R-P, W-W, CCI and Fed (including match grade) for the past few years. My only misfire in the past (can't remember) years was a CCI BR2.
 
If I quit buying anything that I've had a defective unit of, I'd sure save alot of money. Course I'd probably starve to death on the process.
Click to expand...
I assume thats criticism of my decision. Thats fine, your choice doesnt have to be the same as mine, thats why its a choice. I wouldnt quit buying everything that I have a defective unit of, because I do like to eat and enjoy the qualities of life, in fact, I find the comparison ridiculous.

I have the luxury of not using them, as I can find other primers, so I will. I also do not buy premium self-defense ammo. I load it all. A failure rate of 10% is not good enough for that purpose, so I will no longer buy them. I dont want to deal with keeping reliable and non-reliable primers seperate, they need to be all reliable.
 
Not a criticism at all, just a fact. Bought a very defective new Camaro years ago, replaced it with another GM product after 6 months. This is just one example, in 67 years most everything I ever bought on a continuing basis I've had defective ones at one time or another. You correct you have the right (luxury) "well maybe", of not using them, no problem, go for it.

Comparison ridiculous? Well thats your opinion.


I really guess what I was trying to point out was just because a company has a defective run, and we know they corrected the problem, then why not purchase, but as you point out that is your choice.
 
All I can say is my experience with Wolf primers has been ok, no problems, so I will continue to use them, it's like anything else, good or bad.
I shoot a fair amount and if I can save a few bucks with no problemos----I mean what can I say.:)

Floydster
 
I bought 30000 Wolf primers a couple of years ago. I haven't had a single bad one yet out of the 1500 or so that I've used. But these are the old brass-colored and funny-copper-colored ones.

I've heard bad things about the new nickel Wolf primers. I would still be willing to try them, maybe the people having trouble really just have hammer springs that are too light -- but I wouldn't place a huge order right off the bat.
 
Not a criticism at all, just a fact. Bought a very defective new Camaro years ago, replaced it with another GM product after 6 months. This is just one example, in 67 years most everything I ever bought on a continuing basis I've had defective ones at one time or another. You correct you have the right (luxury) "well maybe", of not using them, no problem, go for it.

Comparison ridiculous? Well thats your opinion.


I really guess what I was trying to point out was just because a company has a defective run, and we know they corrected the problem, then why not purchase, but as you point out that is your choice.
Click to expand...
I understand entirely what you are saying and I am sorry if I came across as confrontational. Its funny that you mention that car thing. I have owned 5 camaros in the last 15 years, four at once, and two now. I wont, however, ever buy another front wheel drive v6 GM car. Too many intake gasket problems, intakes themselves, etc. I've been a mechanic since the middle 90s, and have just seen too many problems with them to put myself in one. Just like the wolf primers. I wouldnt say that I would never buy them, if its all I can get, well, I will be using it. As long as I have a way to use something else, I will.

I've heard bad things about the new nickel Wolf primers. I would still be willing to try them, maybe the people having trouble really just have hammer springs that are too light -- but I wouldn't place a huge order right off the bat.
Click to expand...
Its alot more than that, Wolf actually recalled some and replaced them until they started losing too much money on them, people were taking advantage of it. It was definately an issue.
 
ljnowell said:
Its alot more than that, Wolf actually recalled some and replaced them until they started losing too much money on them, people were taking advantage of it. It was definately an issue.
Click to expand...
I don't believe they replaced any, but they did offer a refund on the unused portion and allowed the purchaser to keep them. I think that's what some folks may have taken advantage of, but I'm more of the opinion that the problem with their SPPs was more widespread than anticipated and they needed to cut their losses.
 
Has anyone had problems with the new Wolf SR primers? (are they still that funky copper color?) They (the old copper ones) work great in .357 Magnum and in 9mm; of course you'll need to work-up your load data again if it's anywhere close to max.
 
Last edited:
I thought this thread was about Tula primers. Has anyone tried them?

Graf's shows Tula Berdan primers too, but not in stock and they don't say what diameter they are...
 
I found this on the net...
Tula Ammo Information

Tula Cartridge Works ammo company was started in 1880 and is currently a leading ammo manufacturing facility in Russia. Furthermore, Tula Ammo is one of the largest ammo suppliers for its home country of Russia and even for many markets abroad.
Tula Ammo is marketed under the Wolf trademark and represents the pillars that are unique to the Wolf brand. Strict quality control, a wide array of products, cutting edge patent technology, and excellent performance are guaranteed when using Tula Ammunition. The Tula name has gained a following worldwide for being a rugged, reliable, and economic product.
Where Tula Ammo Is Manufactured

Tula Ammo is manufactured in the same Tula factory that makes Wolf ammo which is located in Russia.
Click to expand...
 
I hope they are good, I unpacked 3k Tula LLP's I got from Powder Valley, Yesterday. I prefer CCI and Win. haven't seen any round here in over a year. Local store had Rem. primers for 49.95 per k. I'll try to get some of these Russian primers loaded up soon and give an opinion.
 
Last edited:
I am going to place a large order from Powder Valley as soon as they get Tula SPP in stock.
I am checking every day:)

Floydster
 
ljnowell said:
Tula=Wolf
Click to expand...

Them's fightin' words. You might as well say HP-38=W231 or H110=W296. :)

You know it ain't so just because the distributor says it is... :uhoh:
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

W
  • Locked
Tula primers
Replies
21
Views
2K
Green Parrot
G
stchman
  • Locked
Reclaiming Live Primers.
Replies
12
Views
438
stchman
stchman
T
  • Locked
Going from wolf sp primers to tula sp primers? Has anyone done this?
Replies
5
Views
629
J_McLeod
J
F
  • Locked
Tula and CCI magnum primers?
Replies
15
Views
1K
filster
F
C
  • Locked
Tula large primers and my Hornady L-N-L AP
Replies
7
Views
768
ColtPythonElite
C
Back
Top