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Two New Carcano’s

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by dh1633pm, May 30, 2020.

  1. dh1633pm
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    Picked up two Carcano’s on Thursday that I traded an Enfield No 1 with someone on this site. They are not in bad shape. I now have two more rifles towards my collection of milserp rifles. One is 6.5 and the other is 7.35. I haven’t figured out the SD mark on the bolt. I do know the SA that’s on the receiver and the history of the 7.35. Any Carcano’s out there? I do need a rear band for the one.

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    I can't help you with your question but those are two Italian cuties.
     
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    I just happened to marry an Italian Cutie as well. Thanks.
     
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    I have always heard that the SD on the bolt was an inspectors stamp.. Those look like nice rifles...

    A few more photos would be nice :)
     
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    I will post a few more shortly. I have both fully apart for a nice cleaning and inspection. There were a few rusty parts here and there, nothing that won't clean up nicely. Just surface stuff.
     
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    Here are a couple. As you can see they are disassembled.

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    Do you have any of the enbloc clips for ammunition? Carcano's feed from the top and the clip drops from the bottom. Otherwise you have to feed them one round at a time.
     
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    Will the extractor accommodate single-loading?
     
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    I have one. No finger grooves. 6.5MM. I'll get pictures and info and re-post.
     
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    I ordered some clips. Now to find ammo. Shouldn’t be too hard. I can also load myself as I acquire the components. Don’t plan on shooting them too much.
     
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    I trust that you know the 6.5 typically uses a .268 dia bullet instead of the more common .264 dia?
     
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    Yes Sir. And thanks.
     
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    My only Carcano is also a 7.35 with the SA mark, VG condition, no bayonet. Bought it cheap with a varnished stock about 20 years ago. I've only been to the range once with it -- someday I need to tweak the repro clips I have to function smoothly.

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    My wife's 3rd gen Japanese-American -- just had our 38th anniversary Friday. Funny, I've yet to own a single Japanese-made firearm.
     
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    This: $12.95 and $2.00 S&H. Ammunition was 6 cents a round. All I can find that's legible is 1918. IMG_3703.JPG IMG_3704.JPG
     
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    Ian over at Forgotten Weapons on YouTube just got through with several episodes on Carcanos; might be worth a watch.
    He goes into markings on the examples he's showing, too.
     
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    You can fire without the clip. Remove the bolt, attach a round and then replace the bolt.
     
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    yeah, forcing the extractor to ride over the rim MIGHT cause it to break. same as the M1895 Steyr rifles :what:
     
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    Many of the 7.35's were sent to Finland in 1943-44.They were stamped SA on bolt or barrel depending on the inspector.
     
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    Mine has a very clear SD on the bolt.
     
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    So did the Carcano that Oswald used in the Kennedy Assassination..
     
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    There is also a lot of carcano talk on the WWII bolt thread that is going right now....check out the last couple pages for carcano stuffs.

    IMHO the Partizan ammo shoots pretty poor out of them, carcano never got a "pointy" boolit, if you reload get the hornady bottle nosed bullet, it is of the proper profile for carcano and really wakes up the rifle, don't discount it till you give it a try. Oh this is for your 6.5 version....the other is going to be hard, I don't know anyone that is factory loading for that old gal. And remember fixed sight, if working at 100 you need to hold pretty low.
     
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    Pretty pricey (and pointy), but available:
    https://www.steinelammo.com/product/7-35-carcano-x-51mm-carcano-128gr-soft-point-20rds/
    https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/23222


    FWIW, Grafs has loaded ammo, brass, bullets and Hornady dies (Lee's too when in stock).
    https://www.grafs.com/catalog/product/productId/21414
    https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/76465
    https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/6682


    According to Ian at Forgotten Weapons, many SA marked Terni's were fitted with a taller front sight by Finnish armorers to shoot closer to POA at 150.
    https://www.forgottenweapons.com/m38-ts-carcano-carbine-brilliant-or-rubbish/
     
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    I ordered dies for both calibers today. I don't see myself shooting them a lot, but its nice to have ammo for every firearm I own. Thanks Dave for the links. I followed each and everyone of them.
     
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    I have never looked for them, good to know.....also I think my wife might hate you for pointing this out to me.
     
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