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  1. bushmaster1313

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    Folsom Batavia Leader
    12 gauge Modified & Full
    At least 85 years old.

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  2. oneounceload

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    NICE!
     
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    Those older doubles are fun to shoot with the right ammo and two triggers just adds that much class to them
     
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    This gun has modern steel barrels, but I will not hot shells
     
  6. roadliner

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    Nice double! I have a couple of O/U's with double triggers and prefer them to the single trigger guns. I can select the barrel faster than pushing the selector button.
     
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    Absolutely! For a field gun with two barrels, two triggers just makes the most sense
     
  8. Liberty1776

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    Certainly in beautiful shape...
     
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    The Folsom made Batavia Leader was assembled by the Folsom Arms and Hardware Company from parts they recieved after buying out the Baker Gun & Forge Company of Batavia New York. BG&FCo sold off the gunmaking side of the operation in 1917 to concentrate on other, more profitable, ventures like government contracts. Folsom assembled some shotguns from parts and then produced some parts to assemble into shotguns. The guns assembled from BG&FCo parts are better finished and that appears to be what you have. All the Folsm guns have an "F" after the serial number. I do not recall how late they were made but believe Folsom stopped production prior to WWII, so your gun is from the years between the two wars, probably closer to the 20s.

    The Batavia is a nice field grade shotgun. Very reminiscent of the style of the LC Smith and until the latter years of production quite lively to the shoulder.
     
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    Very nice old gun!!!! I love old doubles. And, looks like a side lock, too.

    I prefer double triggers, but they can be a pain...in the middle finger. I shoot a LOT of rounds through my 20 gauge some years during the dove season opener, has swollen my middle finger with contact with the trigger guard. I bought a little rubber bumper for it, helps a bit.

    The double triggers do help with instant choke selection and as my old Sarasqueta double has 'em, I've been using 'em exclusively on doubles for a long time, an instinctive move for me to select the proper trigger.
     
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    Very Nice!....I'd roll some low pressure loads, that won't beat her up and then head afield!
     
  12. loose noose

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    Very nice SXS, I've used both the double trigger and the single trigger with the selector. I normally shoot the front, modified (open choked) first, and then the back trigger second. Especially while hunting over a Lab that works fairly close to me so the flush on quail is relatively close by. All of my SXS had modified and full choke barrels with out the choke tubes.
     
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    If you have close quail, you might want to have a smith open the chokes to something better suited, like SK/M, IC/IM or similar. When I hunted quail in northern NV (and chukar), I really liked my 20 with IC/IM
     
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    Naw oneounce, the guns I'm talking about is an LC Smith (Elsie) and the other is a Browning BSS, I wouldn't want to risk depreciating the value of either of those guns. BTW their both in 20ga. I also have an inexpensive Russian made SXS in 12ga with exposed hammers that I used when shooting Cowboy Action. Not too mention my .410ga. SXS that I recently gave to my grandson, I believe that one was a Boito or something like that. He's one heck of a good shot, not that I'm bragging or anything. har har.
     
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    Are you planning on selling them soon or using them for the next 20, 30, 40 years?

    If the former, then don't do anything; if the latter then it does not matter, make them into what will work best for you - neither are a Purdey or H&H, they are just good basic guns - but if they do not work well for you as is, then make them into what will, or sell them for guns that do work well for you

    Personally, I like to actually EAT the quail I went after, blistering them with a M or F choke when they are close over dogs is a waste of a limit IMO - YMMV
     
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    Oneounce, I too eat all the birds I shoot, I also reload 3/4 oz of shot in the 20ga, usually 7.5 shot size, and let the bird get out a ways before pulling the trigger. So far haven't mutilated any of the birds I hit. I doubt seriously whether or not I'll sell any of those 2 SXS as the one Browning I bought for my 3rd oldest son who happened to die in a car accident going back to his base in 1994, the other one (Elsie) my Dad gave me just before he passed away in '93.

    I do hear ya, about what works for me and so far those seem to work well for me.

    BTW where did you hunt chukar in northern Nevada? I've hunted them up by searchlight but lately they've been few and far between.
     
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    I used to live in Carson, so I hunted the hills and water tanks up by Virginia City, lots of going uphill :D
     
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    An old sidelock without a split stock behind the action, and that didn't cost a fortune when it was made. Quite rare. A real tribute to lost craftsmanship.
    I had the same painful trigger guard issue with double triggers when I shot hot 12 gauge loads because I do not grip tightly with my trigger hand. I made a little shield out of an old credit card to put on my middle finger and attached it with a band aid and that solved it for me. Just couldn't add in "grip tightly" to all the other things one needs to do when shooting effectively.
     
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