U.N. to regulate guns in America?

[.45Ruger]

It seems like the U.N. serves mainly as a place where dictators, and tyrants can go and complain about anything that America stands for. The point of this organization was originally to foster world peace, not serve as a stepping stone to a one world government. It does seem laughable that these coutries want to disarm us, great then we get treated just like the lucky civilians in Libya, WOOHOO!!

 

[BerettaNut92]

...and tyrants and criminals dress up as environmentalists.

the UN!!!

 

[PileDriver]

they'll have to shoot me first.

pay a un tax?? LOL not in this lifetime

 

[BerettaNut92]

pay a un tax??

Umm, aren't we already? Kind of?

 

[4v50 Gary]

The blue heads are coming! Well, if it's some foreign national, perhaps the promise of land will work again. Worked for some during the Revolution.

 

[longeyes]

American leftists have already made clear they see "international
treaties" trumping the U.S. Constitution. This is the new way to
overturn the BOR: subsume it under the foreign entanglements we
call treaties. Will our Government defend our rights from a greater
world "community?" I for one have serious doubts, given what I've been
seeing of late. The black flag of Diversity waves high, and the
U.S., is being viewed as the bad boy in class in the world nanny-state.

 

[PeteyPete]

Aim for the baby blue helmet

 

[PileDriver]

Umm, aren't we already? Kind of?

i'm not and never will. are you?

 

[BerettaNut92]

i'm not and never will. are you?

Don't a portion of our Federal taxes go to whatever they see fit--welfare, military, social security, UN, etc?

 

[HBK]

Skunk's right, our taxes, to some extent, already go to the UN. I think we need to get the hell out of the UN and send them to France...or Libya.

 

[PileDriver]

contrary to popular belief, taxes go to the privately owned federal reserve bank as payment of interest on the debt.

the fed then loans the nitwits in washington whatever funds they require. that's why there's so much spending. to get elected they have to promise every special interest group certain things in order to secure their votes.

the money currently being unconstitutionally spent will be paid back by our children, after, of course the interest begins to compound and their effective tax rates will have to be somewhere around 70-75%.

fun huh? wait till we get the actual bill for iraq and the prescription drug program

 

[HBK]

We should just default...tell them to screw themselves.

 

[PileDriver]

www.givemeliberty.org


at last count, 8 million and growing like weeds

 

[HBK]

Add one.

 

[PileDriver]

congrats and welcome to the fight!

 

[Moparmike]

I have a few general purpose answers for this sort of situation. They can pick from the following:

"Drop dead."
"Go to Hell."
"Over my dead body."
My favorite, a Charleton Heston quote: "You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hand!"
Molon Labe is also quite appropriate. Lets just hope they understand they will be reciving the bullets first. Hell, I will be nice enough to personally deliver the bullets myself. (aint I a nice feller)

Makes me glad I am buying a gun next week. My first. I am having trouble deciding between the Mauser or the Mak. Bout the same price, but ammo is cheaper with the Mauser and can shoot further. Cant buy (by myself) the pistol any way, nor can I carry it.

Anyone know where I can buy blue helmeted human-silhouets? (SP?)

 

[sm]

psst.... UN don't the door hit you in the butt

 

[Ian Sean]

Well folks, Ron Pauls action failed to get us out of the UN (75-350). Take a look and see if your congressman is on the list of yaes. If they are, send them a note of thanks.

Find it here.

http://capwiz.com/liberty/issues/votes/?votenum=364&chamber=H&congress=1081

 

[Moparmike]

Done. Glad one of 4 AR reps had intelligence.

 

[alan]

Moparmike:

Re Mauser and Mak, they serve different purposes entirely. Mausers are/were pretty decent, serviceable bolt action service/hunting rifles. Some of the "cheap" surplus 8mm (actually 7.92 x 57 mm) ammunition, particularly the Turkish is not only corossive, but high pressure, possibly higher than should be.

As for the MAK pistols, I have experience with the Russian make(9mm Makarov), not the .380, that ammunition is cheap too, and non corossive, for the most part. U.S. production is all non corossive. Trigger pulls are on the heavy side, not particlarly rough, just heavy, both single as well as double action.

The rear sight, adjustable, goes click, click when turned but movement is course, I suspect that this sight was used for it's ATF "point value". The Russian guns are or were reasonably priced, very reliable, though somewhat "rough" looking, and accurate enough for defensive use, and casual target shooting. For my eyes, (old), the front sight was much to small. That can be fixed by any competent gun smith.

Good luch.

 

[Moparmike]

Alan, thanks for the info. I knew the difference, but the only reason I mentioned them together is because they are both within my budget. I cant buy the Mak on my own though, and ammo isnt readily availible in large quantities on my budget.

 

[alan]

oparmike:

If you reload, Starline does excellent brass in 9mm Mak, not terribly expensive, hard cast lead bullets, 93 grain, .365"dia shoot well with bullseye, red dot, 213, unique, accurate #5 all work.

Actually, from what I've seen/heard, Wolfe ammunition, non reloadable, is so cheap that reloading almost isn't worthwhile, unless you simply want to expirement.

By the way, U.S. 8 x 57 is loaded down, in deference to some really old rifles that are still floating, especially the ones with .318 bore diameter. In Europe, 8 x 57 S bore ammunition (.323" dia. bore) ammunition was loaded to 50,000 # equivalent, and is perfectly safe in '98 Mausers, in proper condition.