Uberti 1858 New Army Black Powder Revolver 44 Caliber 8" Barrel Engraved Frame Ivory Grips

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  1. 1KPerDay

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    Why
     
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    I saw one at a pawn shop - the engraving looked nice but it was laser, not hand. I'd buy that just to have it for a BBQ gun. :) Very nice.
     
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    BBQ Open Carry that too! That’s high class in every way! put away the Natural Light and bring the out the green IPA’s !
     
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    Well it is real engraving done by a laser.
     
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    At my income level, that would be about the upper limit right now. As for Natty Light, I gave that garbage up decades ago. And IPAs are suitable for fertilizer. Plus, since I am highly unlikely to get invited to a Texas style BBQ any time soon, I'll stick with this one.
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    who said you can’t have your own BBQ and carry something nice! Wonder if BBQ-ing and Black powder gun is safe? hummm
     
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    NICE! never thought about like that!

    days of the hand fitting, and hand engraver has passed. Hello Laser and robots and CNC machines. beside, Engraving has become a lost art and only afforded by the rich now. $$$$
     
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    I'm wondering if they did a combination of both acid-etch and engraving to decorate it. Those deeper cuts were done with a graver.
     
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    I think, I’ma go ahead and try to find some money to buy this. It looks too nice. and possibly some hand engraving too.
     
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    If you say so. I've never seen laser engraving that was cut that deep or clean.

    IME laser engraving looks like bannockburn's here.
     
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    No it ain't. I've had two done and another on the way. If you can afford to buy another gun, you can afford to have one you already own engraved.


    That's comical. In case you haven't noticed, everything has gone up. It went up before the current bout of inflation and then it went up more. The standard blued version is over $400. So $450 for a laser engraved gun with upgraded grips is a huge bargain.

    Secondly, they're not just plastic grips. Uberti's imitation ivory is very nice. It has a visible grain structure not at all unlike TruIvory and UltraIvory. Which may cost upwards of $200 to have fitted. Most people would consider them to be a premium option and it's $200 to buy them outright.

    Thirdly, their laser engraving is very well done and again, a nice upgrade for little cash outlay.

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    I have a bunch of the Pietta laser engraved guns, six if I remember right. Some of them are cut very shallow, like the blued 1851 below and my 1860. Others are cut very deep, almost to the point of resembling deep relief cut hand engraving. The three "silver" 1851's below are like this. Which is what the gun in the OP's link looks like. The two gold cylindered guns are a year apart and one is cut deeper than the other. They're also a good example of actual "cheap plastic grips". Worlds apart from the Uberti above.

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    I didn’t think engraving was affordable, have to do some research. I pictured a old Eglishman in his leather smokes chipping away metal and having tea with milk as a break.
     
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    They mostly don't use hammer and chisel any more. They use air powered engraving tools. Picture a guy in Montana scratching away at guns all day and charging under $1000 for 75% coverage. ;)

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    That's the problem I have with the folks who have the attitude that you never talk about how much stuff costs, like it's a taboo subject or rude to even ask. If you don't tell and others don't ask, a lot of folks won't know. The idea that, "if you have to ask, you can't afford it", is total nonsense. :)
     
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    Usually someone in Spain!
    Not having any experience with laser engraving, not convinced this gun is! The side's aren't symmetrical, just little details that are off in the edge's of the "engraving" Betting more on stamped or rolled. Going to try and get some picture's up this weekend when I have more time. On a positive note, the cylinder gap is so tight, I don't believe I could insert a piece of paper between the barrel and cylinder! Also the cylinder catch is so tight, I can't just insert the cylinder after cleaning, had to push it down just so when popping the cylinder back in. She locks up tight. Looks like she was made in 2021.
     
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    Uberti just says engraved. Most of the sites that sell them say they're laser engraved.
     
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    I think it's a good-looking gun. Laser engraving continues to improve. I have a "hand chased" laser engraved gun that, while not up to the standard of "real" engraving, is a pretty good imitation, and only added a few hundred dollars to the price tag.

    And while the "plastic" grips are not my favorite, that standard has been improving as well, to the point that the better quality versions are not at all bad. The ones in the picture look to be well-fitted, at any rate.

    Frankly, it's a tempting gun, and I'd call it a relative bargain, at least these days. The thing that's really stopping me is Midway's "No Return" policy on BP guns. The last one I got from them was completely non-functional, and Midway refused to budge on any kind of return. I probably could have wrangled a solution from Uberti themselves but really didn't feel like I should have to, so swore off any more gun purchases from Midway.
     
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    Who did that work, Craig?
     
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    The grips on my RM are polymer but they don't show any grain structure. Maybe that's what you meant by plastic but to me plastic grips are thin and break easily.
     
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    I know, but just before all this cr** was happening, in November 2019 I went out and purchased a new truck, plopped down 75K for something I figured to pay off early and then maybe think about retiring. Something to have in my so-called golden years. These things, like others come in 3s I have learned, so while researching more caps for it I was visiting my local Cabella's and they had a stainless Uberti 1875 in .45 Colt that caught my eye. Oh, the humanity!



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    This with a search for the manufacture's number and Uberti;
    Read the paragraph after the "Weight" regarding the engraving:
    https://ammoandarmsstore.com/341011/

    "Manufacturer: Uberti

    Model: 1858 Deluxe

    SKU: 341011

    Caliber: .44

    Cylinder: 6-Shot

    Barrel Length: 8" Octagonal

    Overall Length: 13.6"

    Grooves: 7

    Material: Blue Steel Frame and Backstrap, Brass Trigger Guard

    Finish: Blue Steel Engraved

    Grips: Ivory-Style

    Weight: 2.7 lbs

    Uberti exclusive edition of this legendary firearm has been lavishly engraved by the atelier of Master Cesare Giovanelli, a renowned name in the world of premium firearms. The engraving is hand-chased, making each revolver unique; the floral design comes from an original 19th century pattern and covers the entire metal surface of the revolver – from the hammer to the backstrap and trigger guard, from the cylinder to the barrel and loading lever.

    Uberti 1858 Deluxe Edition is chambered in the original .44 caliber cap-and-ball round and features a deep blue finish, color-case hammer, brass trigger guard and textured, simulated ivory grips."

    GunBroker has one listed too which uses the same description of the engraving word for word so perhaps it comes with the revolver's paperwork?!?
     
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    I’m so trying to buy this tonight
     
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    D12C6009-CAFF-4D5D-8A91-C7FC3CCAEE27.jpeg Got the OK to buy it, But Seattle has a $25 tax on pistol firearm. But Black Powder is not considered a firearm????? am I correct or wrong.
     
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    $25 - I’ll call them tomorrow, so I Just order it!!!

    my 1st black Powder !

    photos when it comes in!!!
     
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