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Uberti 1858 New Army Black Powder Revolver 44 Caliber 8" Barrel Engraved Frame Ivory Grips

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Just4FunOldGuns, Aug 9, 2022.

  1. Ephraim Kibbey

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    Yep!
    I'm in Cincinnati so any hand gun I bought in Fort Worth had to be ATF antique.
    My wife had a business convention (Park Lane Jewelry) at the Gaylord Texan in Grapevine and I liked to tag along.
    Lots of down time to read in their water garden and when I got tired of that I went souvenir shopping for my hobby!
    ...Quick aside - When my son turned two in 1986 he was into everything and I sold my first collection of guns.
    .....When I retired in 2004, my wife said I needed a hobby (she had golf in mind, I think) and I said "I know just the hobby!"
    ........I hit GB running and have not stopped since!
    Lots of the stores I called only had modern "plastic" guns!
    Actually the store that found what I was looking for is technically in Dallas.
    I had seen Jackson Armory sell stuff on GB so I gave them a call and they accommodated me with typical Southern Hospitality.
    https://www.jacksonarmory.com/JA/
     
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  2. ClemBert

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  3. Mark_Mark

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    I don’t buy much guns online, they charge a $50 transfer fee here.
     
  4. ClemBert

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    Don't tell me you live in California! FFL fee for a black powder revolver? My brother (in Georgia) bought a black powder revolver on Gunbroker one time and the seller was insistent on mailing it to his local FFL. Bro was pissed and his bros' FFL was pissed it went to them because they don't document or do background checks for such things. His FFL just handed him the gun and said "don't use us if you come across another knucklehead that wants to send a black powder revolver to an FFL".
     
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  5. .38 Special

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    Even California doesn't regulate percussion revolvers. They can be shipped directly to your door here.
     
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  6. Mark_Mark

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    That’s right! not considered a firearm

    I bought from midway and they charged me the $25 Seattle tax on handgun purchases. I contacted them and waiting to hear from their account or someone like that. it been a week now, they are slow
     
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  7. Ephraim Kibbey

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    You need to know not only the laws where you reside but where you buy as well! Illinois does regulate percussion!

    I have purchases C&B stuff from both RIA and from Simpsons (both Chicago) and they require shipment to my FFL here in Ohio.

    He only charges $20 for the transfer.

    If I am buying multiple guns through him at the same time, its still just $20 total.

    NRA has a page that lists the gun regs in each state/city but I do not know how up to date it is with their current troubles.
     
  8. Mark_Mark

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    And it’s being sent back to Uberti for timing repair. Have not ever fired it yet.

    Thanks to what I learned about timing here, Uberti sent me a return slip within 1 hour of requesting warranty repair. Let’s see how it goes!!! they estimate 2 weeks for repair

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  9. Blackpowderwarrior

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    mark mark what was wrong with the timing? Late Drop?
     
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  10. Blackpowderwarrior

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    there finally came a time in my revolver collecting when i realized.... I love my ASM guns the most,I love My uberti guns and they are finished the nicest out of all my revolvers and the metal feels better heat treated then the other guns, but my pietta guns are the most trouble free smooth running percussion revolvers i own.
    If i could only have 1 percussion revolver to use in a shtf situation it would be my Pietta 1860 army just for reliabilty and how smooth and perfect the action feels.
     
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  11. Mark_Mark

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    I have 3 Uberti and the finish is nice, but How can they let this huge timing issue slide like that. If it was not for the Old Timers here ragging on me about reading and researching, I would not know what to look for. Shame, such a pretty gun too
     
  12. Mark_Mark

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    Drops Way early. almost 2/3 of the bolt hits the cylinder before going into the notch
     
  13. hawg

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    This one had the smoothest action of any C&B revolver I've had. Not even close to historically correct with the CCH and checkered grips.

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  14. Mark_Mark

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    Well, it takes time to know what smooth is. One day, I’ll get there
     
  15. Mark_Mark

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    I think my next gun will be a Peitta… compare and contrast
     
  16. Blackpowderwarrior

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    get a open top pietta, you wont be disappointed.

    crazy to think the cheapest gun is extremely well built.

    Watch the pietta factory tour, the factory is pretty old school with a bunch of hand fitting going on with the employees.

    Pietta guns are extremely reliable and nice but people get hung up over the black powder only stamped on the side of the barrel. Which to me is no big deal, Sure its not pretty but to have a trouble free reliable revolver i can live with the barrel stamping.
     
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  17. Mark_Mark

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    my Pedersoli 45/70 is very well built and nicely finished. Trigger is good, lever is smooth too

    I’m glade to hear Peitta is reliable! I was hoping they made a open top conversion. I’ll call Dixie, also ask if they take money orders. Not messing with tracking credit cards anymore
     
  18. Malachi Leviticus Blue

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    I do like the case colors anyway.
     
  19. Jackrabbit1957

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    From what I'm seeing its dropping late, it should drop the width of the bolt head before it goes into the notch. Also seeing peening on the opposite side of the notch indicating late timing.
     
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  20. Mark_Mark

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    it’s dropping before the notch

    anyhow, Uberti can take care of it
     
  21. hawg

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    Its dropping right at the edge of the notch and its hitting hard.
     
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  22. Mark_Mark

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    real hard
     
  23. Mark_Mark

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    drops right before the notch

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  24. woodnbow

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    This one was smooth from the factory and was improved upon that by a good margin. One of more than a half dozen Remington Shooters Models that have followed me home. I kept trying to make peace with that damned grip frame and never could. I’m never gonna shoot mouse fart loads so my big fat fingers get mashed by the trigger guard every time. I quit. WRT the Colt Army, I’ve owned one Pietta 1860 and it’s confirmed my opinions about Uberti’s.


    I do really regret selling this one, I hated shooting it but it sure was purty to look at.

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  25. Mark_Mark

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    DAM that looks good! One thing for sure… not buying a cowboy gun without handling first. Finally got a sense of what to feel and hear for
     
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