Uberti Walker refinishing

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  1. elhombreconnonombre

    elhombreconnonombre Member

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    I found him too, but I cant recall if its the same guy. I sent the guy an email last year about defarbing a Walker, but I dont know if this fellow Zimmerman can be reached vía email. I hear he is a wizard regarding defarbing Enfields, dont know about revolvers.

    Ill search my emails.
     
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    Thats the fellow. He never got back to me. His website is different from then. He showed defarbed revolvers, including a fabulous Co. marked Walker. Now these smiths that do defarbing will "move" existing marks and and to other spots and add other marks as well as their own, they will not add any trademarked info.
     
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    Defarbing... Interesting. I never knew that there was a word for it.
    I found the technique I use to be very effective. I wonder how he did it? I'd like to see some of his work.

    Fred
     
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    I have heard that defarbing involves the use of draw files, and filling of stamped áreas via peening. The guys that do north south skirmish association stuff have their arms defarbed.
    If you go to Zimmermans website you can see of his defarbed Enfields.
     
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    I used the exact same method then. Peening over the old stamping, then lightly filing followed by a bit of emery cloth and oil.
     
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    Well, there ya go. I tried using the shoulder edge of a socket extensión as a peening tool, rubbing these areas very hard back and forth for several hours. All I got was a sore arm and hand and scratched up the item. The marks were still there. Maybe I was not using the correct technique. Care to share yours?

    Then there's the legal issues. Basically, the defarber guys do not technically remove the original markings: they restamp the original sn and other marks required by law somewhere else in the item in a hidden area on the piece. I guess if I was really brave I would get the 2nd gen 1st model dragoon I know of and antique it and not worry about the sn.
     
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    blue

    run you photos through a photo editor on your computer.
    If in the editor they look right, rotate left or right then back.
    This will "set" them in proper perspective.
    Naturally if sideways or upside down in the editor rotate them the right way.

    many cameras and cell phone will post them upside down.

    if you reblue or brown the cylinder yourself, in time, it will wear down.
    Develop it's own patina from use.
    Will have the worn in look.

    I buy my rifles and revolvers in kit form usually and finish them myself.
    I prefer the worn in look they get.
     
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    Hombre, I like your idea of using the rounded end of the extension! I'll try that. I've used a small drift punch that I moved around as I tapped on it. Your idea is much better I think. I forgot to mention that I use a small honing stone to get everything smooth and uniform on the underside and edges of where the frame and barrel meet in front of the trigger guard. Often, I find that area needs to be dressed down anyway while the two pieces are together to create a perfect form and fit to everything.
    I agree with you on just aging a 2nd generation Colt Dragoon and leaving the stamping untouched. That'd be just fine!

    Fred
     
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    I cringe at taking a hammer to my Colt marked ASM to peen the Italian marks. Any suggestions on technique with a hammer or perhaps I should just send mine off to Mr. Zimmerman. :)
     
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    If I had a Colt 2nd generation Dragoon, I'd probably leave it as is and just use the heck out of it.
     
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    A Colt 2nd Generation Dragoon shouldn't have any Italian proof stamps.
     
  12. White Walker

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    Yes. I should have specified that I would leave the original finish on it.
     
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