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Uberti Whitneyville Dragoon

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  1. expat_alaska

    expat_alaska Member

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    Hello to all!

    I am looking for information about a certain "flavor" of this revolver. The Uberti USA site shows the revolver with only the end of the hammer screw showing on the right side of the frame, whereas the trigger and bolt screw ends do not show, telling me that they are in "blind" holes and Uberti had to use an end tap to achieve threading on the right side of the frame.

    This is historically correct.

    I have emailed Uberti USA and their reply is that Taylor's is the importer of these guns. I have an email inquiry in to Taylor's and awaiting a response.

    Any Uberti Whitneyville Dragoon I have seen for sale (Midway, et al) have all three screw ends showing.


    Uberti-Whitneyville-Dragoon001.jpg


    Uberti-Whitneyville-Dragoon002.png


    In the interim period, does anyone here have one such as I am describing, or have seen a real example of one?

    Thanks in advance!

    Regards,

    Jim
     
  2. 45 Dragoon

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    Hey Jim.
    The Whitneyville Dragoon used leftover Walker frames so yes, it is correct. The screwpin holes are threaded just under the counter sink for the head (same as for all the S.A. Colt actions). The hammer screw is the only action screw that is threaded on the far end.

    Mike
     
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  3. expat_alaska

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    Thanks, Mike! Have you ever seen one that I want come through your shop?

    Jim
     
  4. 45 Dragoon

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    All the ones here are correct but they weren't made in the last couple of years. All Walkers as well. I think Uberti probably does what Colt and any other manufacturer would do and use "what's available ". The Walker frames will probably stay correct so, it should be no big deal to use them for Whitneyville Dragoons as well. The frame sizes are the same, the difference is made up by the arbor and the forcing cone bung. The rest of the Dragoons frames have through drilled action holes.
    It is also correct to find a " blend" of "features" of previous models into the next (just as the originals did - nothing to waste!!) so 1st's with flat mains but no roller, . . . it's not inconceivable that a Dragoon is a Dragoon is a Dragoon . . . lol!

    Mike
     
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  5. LonesomePigeon

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    Jim, I don't know how accurately those stock photos represent the guns. I think there is some photoshop involved and they don't always get it right. If Midway has the W-H Dragoon in stock I would call and ask them to check the ones they have. I think Dixie Gun Works probably carries the W-H Dragoon too.
     
  6. Catman42

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    i cant answer your question but i know this i have a uberti 1848 dragoon . i got a howell 45 long colt cylinder for it. it is a tack driver at 20 yards can take the head off of a snake at that range. no recoil and not all that much noise i shoot cowboy loads in it or my own cowboy reloads. i had to deepen the v groove on the sight to make it to point of aim. i also redid the forcing cone as i do with all my revolvers. polished the grips with huts polish. it looks good and it is really a nice shooter. also i took it apart and took all the machine marks out of the brass and polished all the brass. also polished every thing so it comes apart with ease fast and goes back together fast. love that gun. and again it a real shooter.
     
  7. expat_alaska

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    Update:

    It appears that my search for this Uberti WD has been for naught. Email response received from Taylor's this morning:

    "We apologize about the photo issue as the screws do in fact show up on the opposite side of the gun. We will change the photo as soon as possible and we appreciate you contacting us about it! Sorry for the confusion!

    Taylor's Sales Team
    TAYLOR'S & CO. FIREARMS
    304 Lenoir Dr., Winchester, VA 22603"

    Friday I registered at the Midway USA site. They asked for comments and I told them I hoped Midway would put the Whitneyville Dragoon (normally $426) on sale ($360) in the next few months like they did in Jun 2019 and Dec 2018.
    The gods must have been with me because on Sunday my wish came true:

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1002300991?pid=739564

    I immediately ordered one before they changed their minds. Gun ($360), WA State sales tax ($28), and UPS ground slow-boat shipping ($11) totaled $399.
    I will post photos after I receive it Friday.

    For those with mad money in their pockets, there are 9 more left at that price.

    S&S Firearms (NY) wants $397 (out of stock) and Taylor's wants $475. I have never seen any sales on either of those two sites.

    Cimarron wants $470 (standard blue), $540 (charcoal blue), and $570 (original finish).

    Just an FYI for anyone wanting a WD.

    Regards,

    Jim
     
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  8. Ephraim Kibbey

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    Congratulations Jim!
     
  9. Catman42

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    i got mine at dixie and they have good prices also.
     
  10. expat_alaska

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    True, comparatively, but DGW wants $410 plus tax and shipping.

    Jim
     
  11. bannockburn

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    Jim

    Nice to see they took your comments about putting the Dragoon on sale seriously!

    Looking forward to seeing first photos and range report!
     
  12. expat_alaska

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    As of Friday, Midway has put many of their BP C&B revolvers on sale. Very good prices!

    I took delivery of my WD yesterday. Very nice gun! I can see why Sam Colt spent a few years creating a lighter .44 "belt" pistol (based on the 1851 Navy frame) that the US Army would buy. While not as heavy as a Walker, at 4 lbs-2 oz, it is still a chunk to carry on the person. I guess that is why they were referred to as horse pistols instead of belt pistols.

    I am not a good photographer, but here it is:

    Uberti-Whitneyville-001.jpg


    Uberti-Whitneyville-002.jpg

    For size comparison with date codes:

    ASM 1860 Army .44 with full-fluted cylinder (BC).

    Uberti 1848 Whitneyville Dragoon .44 (CU).

    Pietta 1851 Navy Second Model Dragoon .36 (CM).


    Uberti-Whitneyville-003.jpg

    Regards,

    Jim
     
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  13. LonesomePigeon

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    Congrats on the fine looking Dragoon.
     
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