Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Uh Ohh....."Honestly,someone stole it, officer"

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by ScottsGT, Sep 15, 2008.

  1. ScottsGT

    ScottsGT Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2002
    Messages:
    1,987
    Location:
    Columbia, SC
    http://www.thestate.com/breaking/story/524899.html



    Man arrested after 7-year-old finds loaded gun at playground
    A Lancaster man was arrested over the weekend after a loaded pistol was left at a Fort Mill playground and a 7-year-old girl found it, according to a York County Sheriff’s Office report.

    A deputy was called to Plaza Fiesta just after 1:45 p.m. Saturday by a man who said a 7-year-old girl had given him a gun that she found on the playground.

    The weapon was fully loaded when the girl discovered it, the report stated.

    Later, another man asked a security guard if he could have his gun back, the report stated. Roberts told the sheriff’s deputy that he had his gun on the playground and must have dropped it when he went to get his son.

    The suspect, 31-year-old Anthony Roberts, has a concealed weapons permit, but signs at the entrances to Plaza Fiesta said no weapons were allowed, the report stated.

    Roberts was charged with trespassing after notice.

    -- The (Rock Hill) Herald
     
  2. Aguila Blanca

    Aguila Blanca Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2006
    Messages:
    1,693
    Does PA state law allow local governmental entities to go beyond state law in creating victim disarmament zones? I didn't think so. I think they guy may have a statutory defense in the PA premption law.
     
  3. ScottsGT

    ScottsGT Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2002
    Messages:
    1,987
    Location:
    Columbia, SC
    That would be good, it it were in PA. This is Lancaster SC. No the questioin is, was it the correct 30.06 sign required by law?
     
  4. damien

    damien Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2007
    Messages:
    1,212
    Location:
    Northern IL, USA
    I thought 30.06 was a Texas statute, or are we now using this term generically? Or is this a subtle "Texas is everywhere" jab?
     
  5. deadin

    deadin Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2005
    Messages:
    2,077
    Location:
    Ocean Shores, WA
    Take notice that he is not being charged with a firearms violation. He is being charged with trespass.
     
  6. againstthagrane

    againstthagrane Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2008
    Messages:
    504
    what is the "30.06" statute?
     
  7. ny32182

    ny32182 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2003
    Messages:
    5,659
    Location:
    Clemson, SC
    If the sign is not 100% valid format according to SC law, it holds no legal weight and the trespassing charge shouldn't stick.

    Wouldn't surprise me if they could get him for something about the wreckless endagerment of children though... holy crap, that was an incredibly irresponsible thing to do.
     
  8. ScottsGT

    ScottsGT Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2002
    Messages:
    1,987
    Location:
    Columbia, SC
    30.06=generic, I guess. But heree's SC's law on the sign:
    SECTION 23-31-235. Sign requirements.

    (A) Notwithstanding any other provision of this article, any requirement of or allowance for the posting of signs prohibiting the carrying of a concealable weapon upon any premises shall only be satisfied by a sign expressing the prohibition in both written language interdict and universal sign language.

    (B) All signs must be posted at each entrance into a building where a concealable weapon permit holder is prohibited from carrying a concealable weapon and must be:

    (1) clearly visible from outside the building;

    (2) eight inches wide by twelve inches tall in size;

    (3) contain the words "NO CONCEALABLE WEAPONS ALLOWED" in black one-inch tall uppercase type at the bottom of the sign and centered between the lateral edges of the sign;

    (4) contain a black silhouette of a handgun inside a circle seven inches in diameter with a diagonal line that runs from the lower left to the upper right at a forty-five degree angle from the horizontal;

    (5) a diameter of a circle; and

    (6) placed not less than forty inches and not more than sixty inches from the bottom of the building's entrance door.

    (C) If the premises where concealable weapons are prohibited does not have doors, then the signs contained in subsection (A) must be:

    (1) thirty-six inches wide by forty-eight inches tall in size;
    (2) contain the words "NO CONCEALABLE WEAPONS ALLOWED" in black three- inch tall uppercase type at the bottom of the sign and centered between the lateral edges of the sign;

    (3) contain a black silhouette of a handgun inside a circle thirty-four inches in diameter with a diagonal line that is two inches wide and runs from the lower left to the upper right at a forty-five degree angle from the horizontal and must be a diameter of a circle whose circumference is two inches wide;

    (4) placed not less than forty inches and not more than ninety-six inches above the ground;

    (5) posted in sufficient quantities to be clearly visible from any point of entry onto the premises.
     
  9. Treo

    Treo member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2007
    Messages:
    3,110
    Location:
    Co. Springs
    How could you carry a gun in such a way as to not noticed that you dropped it?
     
  10. Dope

    Dope Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2007
    Messages:
    359
    Location:
    MA
    They don't say what kind of gun or the caliber or anything. Easily could have been a derringer or other ultra-small handgun that he was pocket carrying. I bet it would be easy to miss if you were focused on your child.

    Dope
     
  11. insidious_calm

    insidious_calm Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2004
    Messages:
    337
    This is a poster scenario for using a holster......


    I.C.
     
  12. Pat-inCO

    Pat-inCO Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2008
    Messages:
    591
    I think it is more a reason to revoke the turkey's permit. If he can't even keep track of his "concealed" weapon, he is too dumb to be allowed to carry one.
     
  13. 10 Ring Tao

    10 Ring Tao Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2004
    Messages:
    945
    Location:
    SE MI
    So who lives near there that wants to get a picture of that sign and every entrance?
     
  14. Duke Junior

    Duke Junior member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2008
    Messages:
    685
    Location:
    Cherokee County,North Carolina
  15. hopelessjoe

    hopelessjoe New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2008
    Messages:
    84
    And you have never done something stupid that could endanger a persons life?

    How about the time you busted the speed record to get to work on time?

    You aren't allowed to be the judge until you can be a compassionate and intelligent jury member.
     
  16. SCKimberFan

    SCKimberFan Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2008
    Messages:
    1,229
    Location:
    South of the Mason-Dixon Line
    This actually took place at a playground (play area) inside a mall. Plaza Fiesta is an outlet mall.

    I have to agree with Treo on this:

    Even if it was a pocket gun, you would notice it falling out. This was not someone who should have had a gun. If you can't keep track of it when you are carrying...you shouldn't have one. :eek:

    On another point, if you are going to ignore the sign, keep the gun out of sight. I am certain the sign does not meet SC No Weapons sign requirements, although I have not been to that mall for quite a while (and I am in Clearwater FL today).
     
  17. cassandrasdaddy

    cassandrasdaddy Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2006
    Messages:
    4,203
    you gotta wonder how some folks could defend someone who drops their gun in the playground.
     
  18. SCKimberFan

    SCKimberFan Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2008
    Messages:
    1,229
    Location:
    South of the Mason-Dixon Line
    I'm really surprised the York County Solicitor (DA) hasn't charged him with this. Although is would be "reckless endangerment".
     
  19. cassandrasdaddy

    cassandrasdaddy Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2006
    Messages:
    4,203
    yea the charge is a real break for him
     
  20. Old School

    Old School Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2008
    Messages:
    307
    No question. Losing a gun is bad enough, but on a playground for crying out loud. It is truly amazing that there was no tragedy. This guy is a poster child for our opponents.
     
  21. Treo

    Treo member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2007
    Messages:
    3,110
    Location:
    Co. Springs
    My profound condolences
     
  22. tigre

    tigre Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2008
    Messages:
    209
    Location:
    Tampa
    Except for the "don't touch" part. It sounds like the little girl picked it up and took it to an adult. Four steps seem like too much for little kids anyways. I'd think "don't touch" and "tell an adult" would be all that's really needed.

    Anyways, yeah, that's about the most stereotypically irresponsible thing someone could do with a concealed weapon. It sounds like the kind of hypothetical an anti would come up with. They've just got to be holding off on further charges trying to figure out what to throw at him. No way this is just trespassing.
     
  23. cassandrasdaddy

    cassandrasdaddy Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2006
    Messages:
    4,203
    god forbid i do something like that though at my age i've learned that i am capable of monumental screwups. if that was me i would kick my own butt pretty good
     
  24. SCKimberFan

    SCKimberFan Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2008
    Messages:
    1,229
    Location:
    South of the Mason-Dixon Line
    Treo:

    could be worse, I could be in Detroit. :D
     
  25. Duke Junior

    Duke Junior member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2008
    Messages:
    685
    Location:
    Cherokee County,North Carolina
    Technically,you are correct.
    But even a blind squirrel(me)finds an acorn once in a while.:)
    4 steps with no mis-steps is not too many.
    At the age of 7,I was handling Momma's .38 Colt Detective Special.
     

Share This Page