Unconventional weapons

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  1. JTHunter

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    How many of you think "outside the box" when it comes to unusual ways to defend your home and family?
    Here are a few of the unconventional items that I can use, if need be. Not all will cause fatal wounds but can be disabling.
    The metal yardstick is there for 2 reasons - so you can see the sizes of the items AND as a defensive tool. Granted, hitting somebody with the broad, flat face will only bend the yardstick and sting somewhat. But, hitting them across the forearm from the elbow down may break bones or stun their arm and cause them to drop their weapon.
    Next is an old umbrella that I carefully removed all the unneeded metal parts and made it into a spike. While the shaft is hollow and will be bent if I whack somebody with it, the metal point has been slightly sharpened and could pierce a body once or twice before bending.
    The 3' piece of garden hose is self-explanatory. Nonfatal but hurts like "H".
    The next item is half of a set of "loppers" used to trim tree branches. The curved hook of the other half broke and I removed the bolt holding them together and sharpened the blade. I don't know how well it work to stab or puncture but imagine the slashing power of that 2.5" blade at the end of the 26" handle. Do you think it would be good enough to take out the jugular in the neck?
    Lastly is a heavy chef's knife that I keep handy in the kitchen. It doesn't get used for food prep as it is too big for the prep I do, but - - -. :evil:

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    Now let me know what strange "tools" you keep around and what gave you the idea to "repurpose" them ! :D
     
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  2. PCparabellum

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    Cut down axe handle, fits in the bench seat of a 64 ford truck old 16” butcher knife, years ago a big pipe wrench (or stilson wrench for fellow old timers). 2 ft piece of wire cable looped on one end, cable clamp on the other. Hornet spray. Only one I don’t have around today is the axe handle. Around the yard, hoe, shovel, pruning pole with saw blade almost anything can be used as a weapon. Your selection is good because they have length.
     
  3. FL-NC

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    I have a rigging axe and a old school 3 cell mag light in each vehicle. I have also been known to carry a padlock with a bandana tied around the shackle. A large crescent wrench in an old beater vehicle doesn't raise eyebrows in most cases. Nor do large screwdrivers.
     
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    I made this
    Does it count?
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    Hell.... By your photo there are two weapons in every pair of crappy, used loppers.

    Never thought of that..... I like it!:thumbup:

    Todd.
     
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  6. Mk-211

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    Just be careful if you have them in your car, if you get pulled over and a cop sees them... you might be in trouble.

    Check your local laws, be safe.
     
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    My truck and my motorcycle are both set up for what they call over landing today.we just called it camping.both are full of weapons
    1 axe or hatchet
    2 hand saw or chainsaw
    3 walking sticks
    4 tent stakes
    5 brush hook and machete
    6 fishing rod .just imagine a big lure with lot’s of hooks reeled up tight being whipped towards a face could do
    7 canoe paddle
    8 frying pan
    9 motorcycle helmet
    10 knife or 3
    11 road flair
    And just for over kill a couple of guns and plenty of ammunition
    With knowledge your never unarmed.
     
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  8. Armored farmer

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    I have a 16" section of 5/16ths log chain in the door panel pocket of our pickup trucks. It stows nicely and doesn't rattle. It will quickly go into a jacket or hoodie pocket if necessary.

    I have wooden "tire knockers" in my three semis.

    I carry my specialty custom shovel in my work truck.
    IT IS THE BOMB!
    Super sharpened point and side, saw blade welded on the other side, hooked spike on the footstep. I'm proud of this creation.
    I'm no @Michael Tinker Pearce, and admit to several flop designs....but this one is a keeper! I may build a shorter one for my jeep too.
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    I got a tube sock with 4 golf balls in it if that counts. And a pick handle with grooves in the handle end and about a 12" lanyard. And a shovel that could be used in a pinch to behead someone. The only pic is the shovel. If you feel a little afraid, I can understand. All the rest of my weapons are readily recognized as weapons. Unless you count the chainsaw and the chainsaw on a stick or any of the crowbars or screwdrivers or hammers.



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  10. mokin

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    I have one of those Cold Steel shovels and a machete - along with lots of other tools and a fishing pole in the back of my Xterra.

    ETA: Maybe as I don't have solid plans for this Memorial Day Weekend I should clean that Xterra up.
     
  11. hso

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    This is advice we've given over and over when people present home made weapons. Something that hides in plain sight is easy to explain (e.g. chain in a truck vs. in a Corvette, roll of dimes gets harder to explain if taped, etc.) to LE /Jury vs. something that's been clearly modified as a weapon. Anything in your home might pass as part of a Halloween costume or repair project, but you don't usually need to modify something to be a weapon in your own home since a decorative spear or sword or Baseball/Cricket bat needs no explanation.

    We're surrounded by defensive tools ...if we look for them, but you should be scanning for them all the time BEFORE you need them since you probably will not have time or thought when attacked and survival is all you're thinking about.
     
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    Top to Bottom...
    My Louisville...
    Dried Hardwood Root...
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    Old broken Fishing Pole...
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    Original Lawman...
     
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    Criminals generally have guns. Taking a knife (or other such weapon) to a gun fight is a good way to get killed.
     
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    My days of hand to hand are gone.
    I avoid people and situations. I walk away
    If you persist and want trouble, make sure your life insurance is paid up.
     
  15. Ironicaintit

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    Well it isn’t always a gun fight,
    and it’s good mental exercise to recognize ordinary things as the improvised defensive tools they can be.

    I’ve always liked the balance and feel of 3/4” electrical conduit
     
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    That's incorrect.
     
  17. JTHunter

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    Armored - that spike on the shovel - what purpose and how would you use it?
     
  18. JTHunter

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    Here's another one that I forgot to mention as it is in my car and I don't have a picture of it.
    Because of the cost involved, I don't have a CC for IL-ANNOY, but I'm not "helpless". In my car, I have the ground spike and riser pipe from an old solar light. The spike is a 4-rib, not unlike an old German bayonet, and it is about 7" long. With the pipe, it is about 15" long and the ribs have been file off a little to sharpen the aluminum. Yes, the aluminum won't hold up for very long but it is long enough to puncture the heart or aorta IF I can avoid the sternum (breastbone) or a rib. Best choice might be an underhand punch going upwards just below the sternum.
     
  19. RetiredUSNChief

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    Criminals have whatever is on hand.

    Regardless, if you think taking a knife into a gun fight is a good way to get killed, what about going empty handed?

    Close quarters in my own home? Try getting away without bleeding when I'm armed to the teeth from the kitchen, gun or no gun.
     
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  20. Rexster

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    Some somewhat random thoughts:

    Criminals, who have guns, will still tend to get within contact distance, before pointing said guns. We see this in surveillance videos, and I heard this, time after time, while investigation street crimes. A decisive, resolute defender, with a contact weapon, may well be able to prevail, in such scenarios.

    We all like to think that we can see a threat, before it approaches too closely. Well, depending upon the environment, this is not always possible.

    As it is, even when armed with a handgun, I may need to “create distance,” or otherwise gain the necessary space, to enable drawing and presenting the handgun. An object that I may happen to have, in my hands, can facilitate creating this necessary space.

    An improvised weapon could be nearest-at-hand, at times such as while fueling my pickup truck, at a gas pump. If my observations of recent incidents are correct, I think that fueling my truck is the most dangerous thing that I routinely do. One hand could almost be in contact with a tool, that is by the bed rail, and a hand could, then, be casually placed onto such improvised weapon, when trouble is suspected, but before I would be justified in drawing and presenting a handgun.

    It is helpful, of course, if each of one’s hands are able to use weapons, so that one hand being on something like a shovel, or socket wrench handle, does not compromise one’s ability to use the other hand to draw and fire a handgun, or, in places where firearms are not legal or practicable, draw and present a better/superior non-firearm weapon.
     
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    Filling a vehicle, you're holding lightning in your hands. Pumping some gas on someone while holding a lighter that will stay lite when you threw it, like a Zippo, is a powerful threat.
     
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    Many options are open to address any situation, the awareness to use our local defence mechanisms prior to using a deadly force should be instilled in all of us, isn't this what this Awesome gun board and thread is all about? Love the different ways we think about these situations...
     
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  23. hso

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    Not while, unless you want to be an old flame. Spraying highly volatile flammable liquid on a potential assailant creates too many flammable vapors to have an ignition source going in hand. Better to have what you need and ready than set the vapor off too soon.

     
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  24. Mk-211

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    Would've been better if the bad guys had went up in flames! What a great way to protect yourself, although if the gas had found a spark, they would all be in trouble!
     
  25. RetiredUSNChief

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    Yes.

    Gasoline is EXTREMELY volatile and it takes very little of it to reach an explosive fuel/air mixture over a rather sizable area.

    That's not lightening...that's a bomb!

    And it can be particularly wicked, especially if liquid gas gets on you. The liquid doesn't burn... but with the low vaporization point, the heat from flames makes it vaporize faster, feeding the fire.

    And when you inhale the fuel/air mixture? Flames can quite literally follow your airways into your lungs, even if your exhaling at the time.
     
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