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Under the pillow caliber war!

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Shrinkmd, Dec 29, 2006.

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What would you most rather have under your pillow for HD?

  1. .22lr - After all, it's all about shot placement, right?

    3 vote(s)
    1.4%
  2. .38+P - I need to see and hear afterward for follow-ups

    82 vote(s)
    39.0%
  3. .357 magnum - Who cares about follow-up shots, use the best!

    72 vote(s)
    34.3%
  4. .45ACP - Moon clips are cool, the slow & heavy bullet thing...

    37 vote(s)
    17.6%
  5. .44 magnum - Maybe a bear might be breaking in

    13 vote(s)
    6.2%
  6. .50 S&W - Maybe that bear is breaking into the cave next door!

    3 vote(s)
    1.4%
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  1. Shrinkmd

    Shrinkmd Member

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    This one is for the 4" revolver fans. Assuming you don't need 15+ rounds of 9mm for handling a break in, which would be your favorite choice, and why?
     
  2. Texas Colt

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    The 357 magnum! My trusty Colt Trooper Mk III (4 inch) is always in the bedside table.

    Why? No jams with a wheel gun and with a 158 grain JHP, it has plenty of knockdown power. The 357 still has one of the best one-shot-stop records of any handgun caliber. I personally have no trouble with the recoil and I don't have to worry about over penetration since the kids are gone. And if 6 rounds isn't enough, I have two speed loaders standing by :evil:
     
  3. 19-3Ben

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    When I carry, I use .357 mag. Gold Dot Short Barrel.
    For nightstand, I use .38+p glaser safety slugs. I don't need the huge blast and flash blinding me at night in my home when I've just woken up.
    I figure if I'm carrying, I'm already awake, and more prepared to deal with the blast, so a .357 mag isn't as terrible.

    Oh, and incidentally, I use my 4" 19-3 for nightstand. and SP101 3" for carry.
    And I would NEVER EVER keep a gun under the pillow. I feel like that's a really BAD idea.
     
  4. ArchAngelCD

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    Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel .38+P here too loaded in my 4" S&W Model 619. I don't want to leave myself deaf-dumb and blind if I have to protect my home at 2 AM. Why would anyone want to squeeze off a full house .357 flame thrower that sounds like a cannon in a small dark room? The .38 +P is loud enough for me!
     
  5. kid_couteau

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    Helllllllllooooooooooooooooooooo

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    I cant aim when I first wake up:neener:

    Later
    Kid
     
  6. C-grunt

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    .22 lr because the guy my mom helped in the hospital, who shot himself in the head with his under the pillow gun, lived.;)
     
  7. SJshooter

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    I can't imagine firing a .357 indoors with no ear protection. Actually, I can... NO WAY.
     
  8. Socrates

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    Pillow gun is 45 Super, 230 grains, at 1100 fps.
    Back up guns are .475 Linebaugh, 400 grain XTP's, at 1350 fps, or, 525's at 1350fps.

    Should really have a rifle....

    S
     
  9. ronto

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    .357 Magnum

    Being temporarily blinded and deaf is better than being dead.
     
  10. MCgunner

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    It'd be about like the time I fired my new Contender .30-30 hunter compensated TC barrel out of a box blind. I killed the deer, but I couldn't talk much about it over the campfire that night. Mumble, mumble...ring, ring...EH? WAZZAT?:banghead: I'm glad I don't have permanent deafness from that one, though I'm sure it didn't improve my hearing. I ain't anxious to repeat the experience. I carry my muffs if I'm hunting a box blind and a .38 resides in my night stand. I sometimes carry my 3" .357 IWB, but I hope I don't have to fire it indoors especially in the dark.

    As for the effectiveness, a hit with a .38 beats six misses with the .357 when you can't see after the first errant shot.:neener:
     
  11. Shrinkmd

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    Hmm...

    Seems like .38+p and .357 are tied so far. I wonder, if you're going to use .38+P, at that point doesn't 15 rounds (or more) of 9mm +P out of a super reliable wonder nine win out? I love my revolvers, though.
     
  12. GunNut

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    .45ACP, the lower pressure round is better on the ears for indoor shooting.


    Don't ask me how I know, but trust me it's not that bad.:evil:

    Steve
     
  13. SteelyNirvana

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    .38 spcl +P in my 4" model 66. I would never keep .357's in this gun for home defense.When I first bought this gun it was my first "true" handgun after being raised on .22's all my life. I went out to my girlfreinds house to try it out and loaded it up with 158g .357's and BOOOOOMMM!!!...lost my hearing for three days:cuss: and I have permantly lost a bit of my hearing.:banghead: When I'm shooting something other than my Marlin 60 I always were hearing protection now when I target practice.BTW I have fired one cyl of .38+P's unmuffled and it is NOTHING compared to .357's.

    Brian Craig
     
  14. grimjaw

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    The .38 +P is loud enough for me!

    .22LR is plenty loud enough out of a short barrel indoors w/o hearing protection. Personal experience on this one.

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    jm
     
  15. mainmech48

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    The nightstand revolver at our house is my wife's favorite DW 15-2 4" VH. It's loaded with Federal Nyclad 158 gr. HP .38 Spl +Ps from my dwindling stash, and two HKS loaders are right next to it. She prefers the revolver because she sometimes has trouble racking the slide on an autoloader with similar power and is more confident about her administrative handling skills with the DW.

    On my side of the bed it's a S&W 4586 and WW 230 gr. SXTs. I'd use my 625, but like the tritium sights on the auto better in this role.

    FWIW, potential hearing loss would be about the last thing that'd come to my mind if I found myself in the doo doo at O-Dark Thirty. Hearing aides are cheaper than funerals, and I'd rather spend years communicating with my loved ones in sign language than mourning them.
     
  16. vta33

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    .44 special not in poll

    Shrinkmd. You left the .44 special out of your poll.

    A .44 special seems like a reasonable under-the-pillow-weapon.
     
  17. Shawn Michael

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    that's better....

    I am for the .44 special!!! Not sure on hearing loss though. I work in a busy CCU in a bad part of los angeles and I cannot tell you how many crooks I have seen over the years riddled with 9mm that survived! I know there are many reasons for this, the more I talk and listen to guy who have been shot/or shot someone, the more I like .45...I happen to love .44 special and think it is an ideal home defense round with .45 a close second...problem being I would only use a revolver for home so better choices with .44
     
  18. Malamute

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    I voted 44 mag, tho rarely use full power loads unless in the high mountains where the grizzlies hang out (all of 5 miles from home). Medium vel loads, or 44 spl medium power loads are MUCH more pleasant to shoot, under ANY cicumstance, then 357 loads. I believe 44 mag loads are even easier on the ears than 357 loads.


    Funny this came up, there is a 4" Smith 29 under the off side pillow at this moment.



    No, I'm not a big 357 fan.
     
  19. earplug

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    Ear blast

    While I can attest to the problems of indoor and confined space firearm discharges.
    You all might consider the Military history of firearms and the lack of hearing protection.
    I don't have any information on Civil Police hearing problems.
    On my own reading of Hatcher, Cooper, Jordan, and others I have never read anything to worry about using a round such a A .357 as a home defence weapon.
    I have read incidental accouts of tunnel rats during the Vietnam war that liked the .357.
     
  20. benelli12

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    44 magnum with 320 grainers, who needs hearing anyway:D
     
  21. Green Lantern

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    Heh, glad you put the .22 on there. That way I can point out that my non-gun-enthusiast cousin feels that an old .22 short revolver is perfectly fine for a home defense gun....:what:

    Ah, another of the reasons why I lose sleep and my hair thins... :brickwall:

    (please note - NOT a caliber snob! If it's a .22 short or NOTHING, I'd use the .22 short! But it's only the .22 short for her because she hates even thinking about needing to use it!
     
  22. Waywatcher

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    I'm torn between 38 and 357, so I picked my compromise:

    A 9mm with a flashlight attached and 15+1 capacity. :evil:

    And before you call me a a mall ninja, I've shot my guns single handed at night while holding a flashlight and I can tell you that a switching to a weapon mounted light is much, much better and easier. I always keep my hand held flashlight handy too, though.

    P.S. I voted .357
     
  23. McCall911

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    I said .44 Magnum, but not because of bears. I consider the .44 Magnum revolver to be the most versatile revolver choice for me, so I would load it down with Specials or lighter Magnum loads for HD use.
     
  24. mike101

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    That is a lovely weapon, but it looks too short to be legal. So who cares, and where can I get one?:evil:

    I voted for .45 ACP only because there was no .45 Colt, or .44 special. The big, slow bullet thing. I love .357s, but I live in a condo, and there's that over penetration thing.
     
  25. kmrcstintn

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    My vote is for .38 spl +p...I have a nice stash of Federal Nyclad 158 gr lead semiwadcutter hollowpoints that I use in my S&W 642-2 snubby and S&W 19-4 multipurpose sidearm (4" barrel); this load is the ole FBI load without the lead fouling that occurs with the softer lead; the powder is flash retardant and is good for low light shooting

    to be fair though, if I could find a non +p load that would reliably expand/penetrate as advertised out of both snubby and longer barrels, I would use it...the +p recoil in my airweight smarts after @ 15 rounds during a practice session\

    again, on the flip side...my Beretta 9000S went back to the manufacturer to have an extraction issue addressed...I'm not sure if I'll keep it in the long run; if it makes it back into the rotation, it gets Federal HST 124 gr jhp 9mm +p
     
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