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United Nations WILL monitor Presidential election

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Alan Fud, Aug 8, 2004.

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  1. Alan Fud

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    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39861 ...
     
  2. 2nd Amendment

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    We simply HAVE to do something about this Carson creature here in indiana. To say she is an affront to this state is un understatement.
     
  3. Jim March

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    Art's Grammaw won't let me type what I think about the UN in the first place, much less about Meddlin' . THR won't let me type anything negative either... I'll just sit here and breathe through clentched teeth!
     
  5. DesertEagle613

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    Hahahahahahah!!!

    /* wipes tears from eyes */

    Heeheeheehee!!!

    /* induces vomiting */

    Man, I LOVE the UN, yes I do :fire:
     
  6. Hypnogator

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    Could this possibly backfire on the Dems? They are infamous for their manipulations of the vote! It would be ironic if they lost because the UN observers kept them (relatively) honest. :evil: :evil: :evil:
     
  7. Linux&Gun Guy

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    I feel sick! Doom and gloom is coming from the land across the sea.
     
  8. GunnySkox

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    The bluehelms go marching one by one, hurrah, hurrah..
    The bluehelms go marching two by two, hurrah, hurrah..

    Good Lord and a bag of Sun Chips, what's our country coming to when we have to sniffle and hold up our hand for the UN to help us cross the treacherous crosswalk of elections? The UN is a cancerous lump on the bosom of the free world, and it's just going to keep growing, feeding itself on every morsel of sovereignty it can get its masticating little paws on.

    If they can "oversee" our elections, what's next? Do we get UN Review of our laws, after the Supreme Court gets done with them? Do we get the UN adding on its own little extra tax to help with those Oh-so-useful Blue-Helm'd "Peacekeepers"? Ugh.

    Letting the UN "oversee" our elections is like Uncle Sam letting Big Brother grope Lady Liberty.

    ~Slam_Fire
     
  9. RealGun

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    Anyone have some good links for this topic (election procedure reform), which I assume cannot be dwelt upon here? If it has a real connection to guns, I'm not sure what that would be without getting overly abstract.

    I would like to find out if the pouch mail issue was addressed. As I understand it, embassy and APO votes were disqualified because they lacked a postmark, which pouch mail never has. I think that would place the entire overseas military vote in question, something like 150,000 I believe, as well as all diplomats, contractors, missionaries, any voter out of the country mailing by organizational pouch, not a post office.

    I would also like to follow the electronic voting question. I voted electronic in the primary. I think I would be in favor of adding the receipt idea, but I liked the general concept and would like to see any issues with it worked out.
     
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    I want to know what the administration is coming to when it bows to the whim of 13 loudmouthed nobodys out of 535 people in the Legislative branch. Congress didnt call for this, 13 whiney, globalist sore losers did. Would you believe that I have heard one 10 second blurb about this in the weeks since their request was made.

    WTH?:confused: :fire:
     
  11. trooper

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    As much as I dislike some things that the UN do, you can't really blame them for this one. Go put the blame on your own administration.

    I probably shouldn't waste my time pointing that out though, as I know perfectly well that to some THR'ers the UN is the root of all evil in the world... :neener:


    Trooper
     
  12. stevelyn

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    trooper sez,

    He's exactly right. Our own President has invited the vampire into the house.
    Lets see now...........Bush is different from Kerry.........How? And I shouldn't vote third party because?????:rolleyes:


    Uhhh............. trooper? The UN is still the root of all evil in the world.:D
     
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    Nah... don't think so. The UN started out with good intentions and has proved to be useful in few instances, unneeded in some and ineffective in most.

    But evil? Me thinks some people around here give 'em waaayy too much credit. The UN is just an oversized bureaucracy with some serious corruption issues that has no clue where it's going. I doubt very much that you'll ever see Blue Helmets parading through the streets of ANY industrialized, western nation.


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  14. WilderBill

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    My friend from Chicago tells me that outright buying votes is the normal way of doing business there.
    What happens if the UN decides to face off against the Daley machine?

    PS, my friend started voting Republican since moving to the free world.
    He was sorta pissed that no one came around to offer him anything at all not to.
     
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    Trooper,
    Ever see the statue outside of UN headquarters?

    No organization that wants to disarm the people of the world only to have its own "monitoring" forces armed cannot be trusted.

    But our administration has appeared to open the door for this and possibly future UN overseeing operations.

    Once you feed the stray cat, it will keep comming back.
     
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    I know what you mean, and this is by far the part about the UN that I dislike most. And I certainly wouldn't "trust" them.

    But I don't think you can reduce the UN to a means for gungrabbers to further their evil agenda.

    I don't particularly like the UN but I find all this not gun-related UN-bashing kinda silly.

    The UN consists of so many different parties, countries and interest groups that I fail to view it as a monolithic, threatening "Evil Empire". Besides this, every country, including the US, uses the UN to further its own particular interests under the disguise of human rights, world peace, equality etc. etc.


    Regards,

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  17. boofus

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    If the UN wants to 'observe' let them. Bush can invite Ozzy Osbourne to observe for all I care. If the UN flunkies cross the line and meddle then that's something else...
     
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    All things considered, I am not particularly comfortable with UN observers here in an official capacity, but as was said a moment ago, so long as they don't meddle they are little more than flies on the wall.

    That being said, my best guess at why Bush would allow this is to prevent a repeat of the 2000 election vote counting debacle. Quite frankly I see the logic in doing that. If having a few UN observers here who observe and don't meddle prevents a round of recounts and validates the election for all those damn naysayers, well then I don't see what is to lose.
     
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    Having said that, do we not have some sort of department or authority to handle this sort of thing in-house? You know, something crazy like using the police or something.

    Can we pretend she's not from Texas? Please...
     
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    1. I agree with trooper about the UN.

    2. Those 13 members didn't understand the system. (Why am I not surprised?)
    a) The UN doesn't intervene in any way unless invited by the legal gov't of the country in question.
    b) Observers do not "ensure free and fair elections". They just observe, and then make a report on whether they think the election was fair or not. If anything is wrong, it will be up the locals to decide if they want to do anything about it, the observers don't meddle.

    3. All this talk about the UN is moot. According to this, Powell invited observers from the OSCE, not the UN...

    But what do I know, I live in a country where the black helicopters now fly in broad daylight. One of them made a low pass over my house the other day, cleverly camoflaged for daytime operations - it was painted red and white with the word "ambulance" on the side. If I hadn't had my tinfoil hat on, I wouldn't even have suspected anything was wrong. :scrutiny:
     
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    And what is going to happen if they see something awry?

    Are we going to accept the "suggestions" of the U.N. in our own internal political process? Seems to fit the defintion of treason.

    If not, are we just going to say "Thanks for coming, have a great day."?

    This is such a precarious situation I don't really have words for it.

    Let's all bow down to the white flag of world govt., spit in the eye of all the people who died for freedom, and just forget about all this "sovereign nation" nonsense. :what:

    The Liberals want to create a nanny state with Liberals at the helm, answering to an even greater nanny. This looks like a big step in that direction.



    :cuss: :fire: :cuss:
     
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    Anjother example of our esteem president suffering from a lack of a moral code. The UN is not a soft and fuzzy gabfest. It is an organization accumulating global power. If you doubt its goals, take a gander at the Man in the Biosphere nonsense. Then scroll down to Agenda 21 and compare the contents of Agenda 21 to what is happening in Portland Oregon and Charlotte NC.

    Bush just did something highly unsanitary to his MRE's. He caved to a small noisy group of marxists with the hopes it will shut them up. It will not. We now have the prospect of Kerry's Platoons of tort terrorists monitoring every election in every state combined with the morally superior UN monitoring our elections. I am outraged but not surprised. After all it was the same Bush that made the "Come Hither" speech to criminal aliens in December 2003 in clear violation of his oath of office.

    This is a baldfaced political decision that will bite Bush in the *ss. I absolutely refuse to accept the moral superiority of the UN, a body which has more blood on its hands than any government extant.

    Bush needs this one jammed up his *ss.
     
  23. Art Eatman

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    Let's keep it rational, folks. I've edited out some rather useless commentary...

    Devil's Advocate view: If these observers could achieve honesty in the voting in New Orleans, the greater Los Angeles area and Chicago, they'd be Good Things for sure. I'm thinking about the junior senator from Louisiana, what happened to Dornan via the "wetback" vote, and the general corruption of the Daley machine...

    :), Art
     
  24. Werewolf

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    Not that it will do any good but I felt it necessary to let el presidente know how one republican voter felt about this UN situation.

    Below is the text of my e'mail to him:

     
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    This particular stunt gives me a particularly bad case of diaper rash.

    My elected spinelessrepublicans will hear from me loud and in four part harmony.

    <Breathes deeply, focuses on a distant object>

    I don't like it but his actions are consistent. The joker simply will stand up for nothing. No principal is too valuable to sacrifice. All principals are subject to his quest for power.

    Can someone explain why it is weak personalities inhabit the same body as dangerous personalities?
     
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