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Universal "Clays Technology" question

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Steve H, Mar 13, 2008.

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  1. Steve H

    Steve H Member

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    I have a new 1 lb. can of Universal "Clays Technology" powder. Is this the same as Universal or is it Universal Clays? I guess what I'm asking is do I follow the Universal or the Universal clays data in the reloading books?
     
  2. DMZ

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    If it says "Universal" Clays Technology, it is Universal.
    If it is labeled "Clays" it is Clays.

    Some manuals refer to Universal as Clays Universal (Hornady) others refer to it as H. Universal (Speer)

    Go here for pics and additional info:

    http://www.hodgdon.com/smokeless/shotpist.php

    BTW, Universal is one of my favorite pistol powders.
     
  3. kennedy

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    universal works great in my .40, meters great and shoots great.
     
  4. Crimp

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    Hodgdon makes three powders in the "Clays" group.
    It can be very confusing - and dangerous, as none of the three can be interchanged.

    1st, there is the very fast burning "Clays" usually called "plain Clays." Its burn rate is close to Red Dot, Titegroup and Accurate #2:

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    CLAYS™ Introduced in January, 1992, CLAYS has "taken the clay target world by storm". It is the most clean burning , consistent 12 ga. 7/8., 1 oz. and 1 1/8 oz. powder available today. The superb burning characteristics of this powder produce soft, smooth recoil, ultra clean burning, mild muzzle report, and excellent patterns. These features transfer directly to handgun applications where target shooting is the main goal. 45 ACP and 38 Special are only two of the cartridges where CLAYS provides "tack driving" target accuracy with flawless functioning. Available in 14 oz., 4 lb. & 8 lb. containers.

    2nd, there's "International Clays" usually called International. Its burn rate is similar to Win 231 and Green Dot:

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    INTERNATIONAL™ INTERNATIONAL is the second in the "CLAYS" series of powders. It is positioned in burning speed to accommodate 12 ga., 2 3/4" light, medium and heavy 1 1/8 oz. loads, with some very nice 1 oz. listings. Also, it works splendidly in 20 ga., 7/8 oz. target and light field loads. As with CLAYS, clean burning and flawless functioning is the rule. Available in 14 oz., 4 lb. & 8 lb. containers.

    3rd, there's "Universal Clays" normally called Universal. It's burn rate is similar to Unique and Power Pistol:

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    UNIVERSAL™ UNIVERSAL handles the broadest spectrum of cartridges for both pistol and shotgun. From the 25 ACP to the 44 magnum, UNIVERSAL provides outstanding performance. In shotgun, it produces excellent loads in 28 ga. 3/4 oz., 20 ga. 7/8 oz., 16 ga. 1 oz., and even 12 ga. 1 1/4 oz. As with all the "CLAYS" series powders, clean burning and uniformity are part of its attributes. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. & 8 lb. containers.
     
  5. Jim Watson

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    Hodgdon "Universal", "Universal Clays" and "Universal Clays Technology" is all the same stuff.

    I think "Universal Clays Technology" is an attempt to back away from the original name of "Universal Clays." Better they had just called it "Universal" as many sources do, three
    different "clays" powders has been terribly confusing to a lot of people.
     
  6. Steve H

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    thanks for the help. IMHO & if I were Hodgen I might think about some clearer naming
     
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