'unnofficial Walker/Dragoon LRE club
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Das Jaeger
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Thanks Aussie !
Just curious was all , appreciate the update .
I am hoping your were standing at attention when you were adressing me in your elequant Germanic rant Salute would have been in order too you know , I didn't see any !
Fortuntely I am Polish and American Indain not Austrian like Hitler , and despise the coward , FYI .
But I do apprecaite your ackward way of telling me I am Raging Lunatic
Looks like the project needs some money is all .
Did your barrel idea go liek this ; get nice barrel blanks screw into block of steel that connects to frame , or are you gonna try to mill that out of huge steel one piece rigs then bore and cut rifling?
Das Jeager
Just curious was all , appreciate the update .
I am hoping your were standing at attention when you were adressing me in your elequant Germanic rant
Salute would have been in order too you know , I didn't see any ! Fortuntely I am Polish and American Indain not Austrian like Hitler , and despise the coward , FYI .
But I do apprecaite your ackward way of telling me I am Raging Lunatic
Looks like the project needs some money is all .
Did your barrel idea go liek this ; get nice barrel blanks screw into block of steel that connects to frame , or are you gonna try to mill that out of huge steel one piece rigs then bore and cut rifling?
Das Jeager
AussieTH
Member
Aye Jaeger,
Thank you for your kind wishes. I too wish that you could build an LRE – it would do you the power of good even if it stuffed your personal life in the process.
Yup the thinking is going down your track. Milling a barrel and lug assembly out of a single block sounds a bit extreme for something the size required. So it will be a machined lug best barrel we can get rifled and tapped into the lug etc etc. The main hassle is there are so many varieties of Walker and they all have to be accurately measured – particularly the dowels that connect the frame to the lug.
I do not want to get into any racial type stuff mate. You have fine bloodlines in you that you should be (and certainly are most proud of). I have fond memories of friends in a Polish flying club that I became associated with – they were all as mad as meat axes but damn they had guts and were top pilots. I particularly liked the extreme courtesy and manners they extended to their ladies. Manners and politeness cost virtually nothing but paint a huge canvass of the source that is generating them!!!!
Hitler’s courage or otherwise has no interest for myself. I greatly enjoyed my years living in Germany (particularly Barvaria). The food and beer was great the girls were wonderful. I regret I never learnt enough of the german tounge. Just enough to get me a meal, drink, bed, girl and the flying that I had to have at that time of my life.
Hitler’s courage or otherwise has no interest for myself. I greatly enjoyed my years living in Germany (particularly Barvaria). The food and beer was great the girls were wonderful. I regret I never learnt enough of the german tounge. Just enough to get me a meal, drink, bed, girl and the flying that I had to have at that time of my life.
You go easy Jaeger – you do fantastic work on your guns and especially, share that with us – which is so much appreciated.
Aye
Tony.
Thank you for your kind wishes. I too wish that you could build an LRE – it would do you the power of good even if it stuffed your personal life in the process.
Yup the thinking is going down your track. Milling a barrel and lug assembly out of a single block sounds a bit extreme for something the size required. So it will be a machined lug best barrel we can get rifled and tapped into the lug etc etc. The main hassle is there are so many varieties of Walker and they all have to be accurately measured – particularly the dowels that connect the frame to the lug.
I do not want to get into any racial type stuff mate. You have fine bloodlines in you that you should be (and certainly are most proud of). I have fond memories of friends in a Polish flying club that I became associated with – they were all as mad as meat axes but damn they had guts and were top pilots. I particularly liked the extreme courtesy and manners they extended to their ladies. Manners and politeness cost virtually nothing but paint a huge canvass of the source that is generating them!!!!
Hitler’s courage or otherwise has no interest for myself. I greatly enjoyed my years living in Germany (particularly Barvaria). The food and beer was great the girls were wonderful. I regret I never learnt enough of the german tounge. Just enough to get me a meal, drink, bed, girl and the flying that I had to have at that time of my life.
Hitler’s courage or otherwise has no interest for myself. I greatly enjoyed my years living in Germany (particularly Barvaria). The food and beer was great the girls were wonderful. I regret I never learnt enough of the german tounge. Just enough to get me a meal, drink, bed, girl and the flying that I had to have at that time of my life.
You go easy Jaeger – you do fantastic work on your guns and especially, share that with us – which is so much appreciated.
Aye
Tony.
Ginormous
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I call Godwin's Law on this thread.
AussieTH
Member
Hey D/J,
Thanks - good to know you are likely to still be around. As I said from the outset, money is not seen as a problem and is even less so now as I have a pile coming in from a bequest. On a broad brush basis if the project ran short I only have to sell one of my small fleet of aircraft to cash up again. I have actually just sold another which is good as now I can buy some more guns.
Thanks - good to know you are likely to still be around. As I said from the outset, money is not seen as a problem and is even less so now as I have a pile coming in from a bequest. On a broad brush basis if the project ran short I only have to sell one of my small fleet of aircraft to cash up again. I have actually just sold another which is good as now I can buy some more guns.
AussieTH
Member
Ginormous. Interesting! I had not heard of that one before. I am not sure that invoking it is valid though. Jaeger and I had not actually declared any formal debate in terms of either us 'winning' it! Besides life may not be worth living around here whwn JAEGEr WAKES UP that somwbody has decided that he has 'lost'!!!!!
Anyway - happyDAYS1!
Anyway - happyDAYS1!
Ginormous
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AussieTH, you may have a valid point there.
Nevertheless, I reserve my right as the first to call Godwin should the thread logic continue to the point of reductio ad Hitlerum.
Pishaa.
Nevertheless, I reserve my right as the first to call Godwin should the thread logic continue to the point of reductio ad Hitlerum.
Pishaa.
kiwiwalker
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My Dragoon
My 1st Model Dragoon (Uberti)
Can you add me
Cheers from down under
My 1st Model Dragoon (Uberti)
Can you add me
Cheers from down under
AussieTH
Member
Very nice Draggie kiwi - you are in mate. You will be taking the Member # 3 slot that Jaeger requested to vacate.
Ay
Tony
Ay
Tony
Ratdog68
Member
So? Do Walker owners qualify since it's listed as the "unofficial Walker/Dragoon..." ? I don't have a Draggie, but have a Walker... and am interested in the LRE facet.
AussieTH
Member
Aye Rattie you are in on the strength of you services to these forums, BUt hop out and buy a whitneyville Dragoon quick as someone (Probably Scrat will be complaing of member poaching!!!!!
Personally I do not mind - the Walker and the Dragoons are all Horse Pistols and hold a special place of their own. I have got to get me Whitneyville as it was the 'Transition Walker'!
Aye
T.
Personally I do not mind - the Walker and the Dragoons are all Horse Pistols and hold a special place of their own. I have got to get me Whitneyville as it was the 'Transition Walker'!
Aye
T.
Ratdog68
Member
Grassy-Ass Ameeeeego.Aye Rattie you are in on the strength of you services to these forums, BUt hop out and buy a whitneyville Dragoon quick as someone (Probably Scrat will be complaing of member poaching!!!!!
Personally I do not mind - the Walker and the Dragoons are all Horse Pistols and hold a special place of their own. I have got to get me Whitneyville as it was the 'Transition Walker'!
Aye
T.
Oh... in due time... a Draggie will be added to the stable... no doubt 'bout that.
Ratdog68
Member
Hey ! Yer Tonyness !?!?!
Any rumors on when a feller might be able to look into ordering a kit for his Walker? Things've been a little quiet on the topic as of late... figured I'd rattle yer cage and make sure you're not overdosed on Vegamite sammiches.
Any rumors on when a feller might be able to look into ordering a kit for his Walker? Things've been a little quiet on the topic as of late... figured I'd rattle yer cage and make sure you're not overdosed on Vegamite sammiches.
theotherwaldo
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I've been following your project with a good bit of interest. I was distantly involved with a similar project. The original goal was to make a simple revolving .44 cap & ball carbine with a permanently mounted stock.
We wound up with three completely different carbines: a Walker/Dragoon, a '51 Colt, and (most successful) a '59 Remington.
The Walker came first. The smith chopped away the round part of the barrel, bored out the stub, threaded in a .45 barrel from some kit or other, dressed a forcing cone, and then started work on the other end.
The buttstock was even simpler. It was pistol-gripped, of course, with the back half of the grip irons replaced by stock-mounting tangs. The stock was supposed to be based on the look of a '94 Winchester but it wound up looking more like a stock from an M-79 Grenade Launcher. Ah, well.
The '51 Colt went better... at first. The barrel mounting was difficult-looking. Our mad machinist removed the barrel as a cylindrical section, removed additional material to allow weld space, arranged a pin jig to hold the barrel and mount stub in the proper relationship, and did the weld (MIG, I think.)
The stock went much better, and looked pretty nice.
The problem was that the cylinder spindle, frame pins, and wedge weren't strong enough in this case. Things worked loose pretty quickly.
The Remington was plain vanilla. Turn out the old barrel, turn in a longer one. Even the grip frame was untouched. The stock was fitted to match the grip irons on the left side, and an almost stock pistol grip was used on the right. Biggest mod on the grip was the two slightly larger bolts that held the two halves together.
My contribution? I scrounged up the (failed) '51 Colt and did the drawings for the tang castings used in mounting the Walker/Dragoon stocks.
We wound up with three completely different carbines: a Walker/Dragoon, a '51 Colt, and (most successful) a '59 Remington.
The Walker came first. The smith chopped away the round part of the barrel, bored out the stub, threaded in a .45 barrel from some kit or other, dressed a forcing cone, and then started work on the other end.
The buttstock was even simpler. It was pistol-gripped, of course, with the back half of the grip irons replaced by stock-mounting tangs. The stock was supposed to be based on the look of a '94 Winchester but it wound up looking more like a stock from an M-79 Grenade Launcher. Ah, well.
The '51 Colt went better... at first. The barrel mounting was difficult-looking. Our mad machinist removed the barrel as a cylindrical section, removed additional material to allow weld space, arranged a pin jig to hold the barrel and mount stub in the proper relationship, and did the weld (MIG, I think.)
The stock went much better, and looked pretty nice.
The problem was that the cylinder spindle, frame pins, and wedge weren't strong enough in this case. Things worked loose pretty quickly.
The Remington was plain vanilla. Turn out the old barrel, turn in a longer one. Even the grip frame was untouched. The stock was fitted to match the grip irons on the left side, and an almost stock pistol grip was used on the right. Biggest mod on the grip was the two slightly larger bolts that held the two halves together.
My contribution? I scrounged up the (failed) '51 Colt and did the drawings for the tang castings used in mounting the Walker/Dragoon stocks.
BHP FAN
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I just got a Uberti USMR Dragoon,can I join?
Smokin_Gun
Member
Congrads on the Uberti Dragoon BHP Fan...
messerist
Member
OK, now I have a vision of Aussie riding in a Kangaroo's pouch wielding his Dragoons hollerin' "Remember Gallipoli!"
BHP FAN
Member
It's the real deal alright...straight from Italy!
BHP FAN
Member
Its got ''Model USMR'' on the cylinder,which I'm guessing is for U.S. Mounted Rifles, and a battle scene with Plains Indians and 1840's mounted Army guys all over it.
Ginormous
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BHP Fan, you of all people know how this game is played . . . pics or GTHO!
BHP FAN
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Well,I am currently sans camera,but when the boy stops by...probably tomorrow?
Ginormous
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And, as always, my scanner is available as necessary.
madcratebuilder
Member
Congrats on the new Dragoon BHP. 1st, 2nd or 3rd model?
BHP FAN
Member
I'm thinking 2nd model because of the square back trigger guard?
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