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'unnofficial Walker/Dragoon LRE club

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by AussieTH, Jul 8, 2009.

  1. StrawHat

    StrawHat Member

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    Fuff's memory and mine are about the same. All Colts percussion and some cartridge revolvers had the gain twist.

    Can you see the liner at the muzzle?
     
  2. madcratebuilder

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    I concur with OH and SH. I recall reading about the twist rate on the original Colts but don't recall the particulars.
     
  3. Old Fuff

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    On an original, unaltered Colt cap & ball revolver you can easily see the gain twist if you remove the barrel and look from the back end toward the muzzle. The rifling starts out straight (no twist) and then curves.

    On non-gain twist barrels the rifling starts turning at once at the breech end. If looking at an expensive antique, do check for a liner.
     
  4. dlon21

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    Thanks for all your informative answers, guys.

    Yes, I believe I can see a liner, it's very obvious when looking at the breech but not so much from the muzzle.

    I bought the gun from antiqueguns.com, didn't say anything about the barrel having been relined though, only mentioned the barrel condition upon my asking. That's bad, feel a bit tricked really :cuss:
     
  5. Old Fuff

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    You are not the first. I've examined a number of antique guns that were well used and even abused, but had perfect bores. :rolleyes:

    Have a professional gunsmith examine the barrel, and if he agrees there is a liner get his opinion in writing, and then contact the seller. Perhaps some adjustment in the price you paid can be made.
     
  6. dlon21

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    Old Fuff..

    .. I took the gun to a gunsmith a while back to have him make a forcing cone. He told me the gun was relined, no doubt he's right. I've intended to shoot this gun sometimes, as with all my other originals, so a nice bore isn't something bad. What's worse is I wasn't told, maybe the seller didn't know this fact about the gun. Don't know if I can require any money back, but I guess I should write him about this. The gun is really appealing to the eye otherwise, not at all abused. Just well used.
     
  7. Old Fuff

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    The seller may or may not have missed the liner (if it has one, which seems to be the case), but professionals in the business of selling antiques should be experienced and knowledgeable enough to know what to look for. At a minimum if you inform them what happened they may be more careful in the future. While this may not help you, it might save someone else down the line.
     
  8. CAMPBELL49T

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    3rd model Colt Dragoom

    Ginormous.
    Thanks for starting a Dragoon Club. I have a 3rd model Colt Dragoon. Made by Uberti serial #A55118 it is new never been fired. That will change and I will post pictures of target and Dragoon. I have posted a picture on an early Post.
    Right now my CP is not working right. And on THR it has affected the post of pictures. I can't even open up a new Post. I have sought help from Arcticap.
    He helped me. We came to the point that because of my Pc. I'm not able to do things on the forum.
    Let me join and when I get all my pictures on my Lap To. I will post pictures then.
    Thank you
    Muzzlesmoke
     
  9. Ginormous

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    Hi Campbell and/or Muzzlesmoke,

    The "Unnofficial Walker/Dragoon LRE club" is the brainchild of AussieTH, who sadly passed away Tuesday, November 10, 2009. I am simply a member by virtue of owning a 1st model Dragoon.

    If you are experiencing difficulties posting pictures to the THR forums of your Dragoon, feel free to email them to me at [​IMG]and I will happily post them to the thread on your behalf. Welcome to the club my friend.
     

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  10. CAMPBELL49T

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    Ginormous, Sorry to hear about Aussie and didn't realy know him. I'm kind of new here.
    Thanks for the offer on posting pics. But, Articap has taught me that already. My PC went down and Im on my LP with no pictures. I will try now.
     
  11. CAMPBELL49T

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    Here are picturess of my 3rd model Dragoon..............






    [​IMG]
     
  12. Ginormous

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    Hang in there Campbell, it'll click for you. ;-)
     
  13. toolslinger

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    Dang I also was not aware of Aussie's passing. Condolences to the family and all his friends.
     
  14. CAMPBELL49T

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    Ok i'ii send them to you

    Ginormous. I know everybody got an excuse. I can't getter done, Just don't understand this #&^%& Vista. Finally figured out on XP with help of Arcticap.
    now I got Vista. :banghead:watch your email...
    Thanks
     
  15. CAMPBELL49T

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    pictures two dragoons

    Genormouse and all,
    Well I gotter done..............Picture of both English Dragoon 1746 and then 3rd model dragoon,
    :)






    Guns 010.jpg



    Guns 014.jpg
     
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  16. Ginormous

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    My apologies to anyone I've left out. If I've overlooked you, kick me in the backside here publicly and I'll fix it up ASAP. As best as I can tell, this is the current unofficial list of official members of AussieTH's "THR Unofficial Walker/Dragoon LRE Club", unofficially speaking of course:


    1. AussieTH (Ascended Master at Arms of the Dragoon LRE)
    2. scrat
    3. Das Jaeger
    4. sltm1
    5. arcticap
    6. TMC4232
    7. bigbadgun
    8. Smokin_Gun
    9. madcratebilder
    10. NobleSniper
    11. Gentleman of the Charcoal
    12. Old Fuff
    13. Ginormous
    14. dlon21
    15. mykeal
    16. Tallship
    17. Calibre44
    18. DoubleDeuce 1
    19. Oyeboten
    20. Fingers McGee
    21. Oldtrader3
    22. StrawwHat
    23. kiwiwalker
    24. Ratdog68
    25. BHP Fan
    26. armyof1
    27. toolslinger
    28. CAMPBELL49T
     
  17. fineredmist

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    How about adding my name to the unofficial list. I believe that being a member of THE OFFICIAL THR WALKER CLUB and the proud owner of 2 WALKERS and 1 3rd Model Dragoon qualifies me for membership.
    Respectfully,
    FINEREDMIST
     
  18. Ginormous

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    Certainly fineredmist, got any pics of your horse pistols for public consumption? :)
     
  19. messerist

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    Mine is on post #204. Can I join?
     
  20. Ginormous

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    Well dang it messerist, I knew I missed some, but yours has a huge pic attached to it - jeez, forgive my oversight.


    1. AussieTH (Ascended Master at Arms of the Dragoon LRE)
    2. scrat
    3. Das Jaeger
    4. sltm1
    5. arcticap
    6. TMC4232
    7. bigbadgun
    8. Smokin_Gun
    9. madcratebilder
    10. NobleSniper
    11. Gentleman of the Charcoal
    12. Old Fuff
    13. Ginormous
    14. dlon21
    15. mykeal
    16. Tallship
    17. Calibre44
    18. DoubleDeuce 1
    19. Oyeboten
    20. Fingers McGee
    21. Oldtrader3
    22. StrawwHat
    23. kiwiwalker
    24. Ratdog68
    25. BHP Fan
    26. armyof1
    27. toolslinger
    28. CAMPBELL49T
    29. fineredmist
    30. messerist
    There, an even 30. How did I get picked for this anyway? I'm the knob head that got burned by a Dragoon . . . :neener:
     
  21. BHP FAN

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    Hey,I'm 25![wait 'til I tell the wife!]
     
  22. toolslinger

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    Thanks for putting me on the list. Now I just gotta get me a Walker
     
  23. GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL

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    Not sure if this is a picture of one of my Walker's or the 1st Model. I think it's the 1st. If I have made a mistake and posted the wrong picture it is an honest mistake and I will correct it.. I hope it's the right one. I'm sure it is. I really like this photograph in particular..
     
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  24. Old Fuff

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    The revolver in the above picture is a Walker. You tell the difference between it and the Dragoons because of the way the stocks are fitted to the frame at the top/front. In this respect the Walker was unique.
     
  25. GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL

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    I shall correct it. I'm bringing down the Walker photograph. I never mess with my 1st Model and so wasn't sure since it was partially holstered. Thank you very much. I will have to set up my other computer and bring it on line. That's where most of my pictures are. Thank's again....
     
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