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Update on the GSG 1911.

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Demitrios, Mar 11, 2009.

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  1. Demitrios

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    I just gave American Tactical Imports a call and got an update on their GSG 1911. They have not released their pistol anywhere else in the world yet, which means we'll be getting some of the first ones, stateside. Their planned release date is late November/early December of this year, the pistol will be coming with 1 magazine and a 2 yr warranty. They've designed it to be fully interchangeable with other 1911 parts, specifically grips, safeties, back straps and magazines. The specs are as follows:

    Model: 1911
    Caliber: .22lr
    Capacity: 10+1
    Barrel Length: 5"
    Action: SA
    Front Sight: Fixed
    Rear Sight:
    Overall Length: 8.5"
    Weight: Approximately 39.5 oz
    Grips: Plastic Panel
    Material: Steel Slide - Steel Frame
    Finish: Blued
    Grooves: Rear 6
    Extractor: External

    The estimated MSRP for this pistol will be approximately $350. Keep in mind this is ONLY an update, so changes may still be made. This information is directly from American Tactical's marketing department.
     
  2. D-Day

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    This is a very enticing .22. I'd like to own one. Would be amazing for drills and training, using a full size, same model handgun of the type you carry; but without the price of ammo.
     
  3. XCastleX

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    i'd like one as well. i agree with d-day that it would be a great way to stay framilliar with a full size 1911 without emptying your wallet.

    any chance you have a picture of it?
     
  4. XCastleX

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    quick google search found one for me

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  5. highorder

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    That picture makes me think the frame is two-piece die cast.

    I suppose that's ok, considering the application. If these are cheap enough, I may have to have one.
     
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    Sounds like a plan.

    It's a tough call, though, when you consider you can get, say, a Kimber .22 slide for less. Bear in mind that the slide can be shipped right to your door and you don't have to deal with transfer and shipping fees.
     
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    Yes, assuming the feel and trigger can be brought up to good target 1911 standards, and that rear sight can be replaced with an adjustable type. I shoot in my shop into a trap, but limit the neighborhood noise impact to .22 LR, this would give me my favorite shooting platform in my shop.
     
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    If it proves to be as reliable as my GSG-5 as been then I will be picking one up for sure, especially if it sells for around $350!
     
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    Hmmm. I already have a Ciener conversion for my Kimber, and I've been seriously considering building a dedicated frame for it. I'm not seeing a clear advantage from this one, although I am glad to see someone making an economical 1911 .22.
     
  10. Crunker1337

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    Hey, this looks pretty nifty! Keep us updated.
     
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    Looks that way to me also.

    Jason
     
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    So far I like my Ciener, but with the SA Black Stainless frame and the updated ignition parts it's a $1,500 .22. That looks good for folks who don't have an extra 1911 frame or are new to the 1911.
     
  13. Demitrios

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    Another Update for the GSG .22 1911.

    Another update my friends and I'll try and answer all your questions in order. First off, this is aimed at Highorder and Jason G, it is not a two piece die cast, in fact it is modeled after a Colt 1911 (not the GI series) and is 80% interchangeable with other 1911's. What this means is that you can't swap out only the slide, guide rod, barrel or spring with a .45 and expect them to work. In other words, don't expect to put a recoil spring from a .45 into this gun and expect it to work (I know this sounds insulting to your intelligence since it's common sense but they told me this in order to cover their own butts). HOWEVER it is FULLY interchangeable if you swap out ALL of the parts I mentioned above. In other words you could say this gun is backwards compatible and turn it into a .45 from a .22. Put simply this gun is meant to be able to convert to a .38 super, .40 S&W (I believe, I did not ask) and .45. As such if you wanted to swap out the trigger, mainspring housing or tweak it in any way at all to bring it up to "target 1911 standards" then you can do that as freely as you would any other 1911. I saw a comment before that a Kimber conversion would cost less (I usually see prices floating around $300 give or take $30). Keep in mind though that if you buy this pistol for $350 you can convert it to a .45 for around $200, instead of buying a decent pistol for $600, or more, and converting it for $300. Also this gun and its parts are measured in american standard (inches) not in metric. If anyone else has any more questions I'll be more than happy to look into their R&D some more and see what I can find out for you guys.
     
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    Hmmm. I'd have to personally inspect one inside and out before I trusted that frame for handling a caliber swap. And what about the ejector?

    Jason
     
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    I can understand wanting to inspect any pistol before buying it. I'm not sure about the ejector, but I'd imagine the extractor would be external (I'll find out later) and with a caliber swap would be. . . well whatever you'd like it to be.
     
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    I wish someone would make a .22 pistol that had a mag with more than 10 rds. :-(
     
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    I've got a gsg-5 "pistol" that takes 22 round mags......
     
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    ruger charger with a promag 50 round drum
     
  19. Dan Crocker

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    Yeah OK guys...I mean a pistol that has the mag in the grip! :)
     
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    I want one since i saw that pics some time last year..
     
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    I'll be buying one at $350!
     
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    in the picture, you can see that the frame is actually a two piece cast frame.. if you look at the front of the trigger guard, you can see the countersunk hole for a Philips head screw.. it appears to be made in a similar fashion to the GSG 5 rifle.. which has a cast aluminum alloy frame that is also two piece fastened together with countersunk screws..

    i highly doubt that this .22 1911-style pistol has very much to do with an actual 1911..

    it's more of a converted airsoft, than a new designed .22 1911.. IMO..

    it would be better to buy a RIA Tactical, and a Kimber .22 conversion.. again, IMO..
     
  23. Demitrios

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    TG13, that's all well and good but keep a few things in mind, this picture came out quite a few months ago, meaning that whatever's in the pic is only for marketing purposes. Also, as I've said prior, the claim that it's modeled after modern day Colt's (not the GI models). But again don't take my word for it , go take a look for yourself when they come out. Also, I'm a fan of RIA's, I'm getting a 1911A1 very soon (to the tune of $320:D) so I'll support your decision for the conversion kit. But the bottom line is what they claim shouldn't be swept aside so easily, at least not until you get your hands on one and see for yourself.
     
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    Great. That says nothing of it's construction. It's either a 2 piece die casting, or its not. We shall see. Like I said before, at the MSRP, it doesn't really matter.
     
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    It doesn't look like it's a very high quality build. I would buy it for around $320.
     
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