Urban Daily Backpack Gun

Mission doesn't matter, at least with regard to the OP's questions.

For those who need help getting over this stumbling block, imagine that he is a bodyguard, and his principal wants inconspicuous protection while s/he is working out. Or whatever other unconventional purpose makes sense to you.

Afterwards, can we please get back to the questions he posed? Namely, what do we think about the various short-barrelled, rifle-caliber tools with folding stocks, and the various ways to carry them?

 

I may be wrong, but on the surface the SIG Rattler looks like an SBR'd AR with a folding stock.

What differences are there between the folding stock mechanism on the Rattler and the various after-market folding mechanisms currently available?

OP, what led you to select the SIG version?

 

Sure we do...we just understand the 1st, along with the 2nd. You are entitled to your opinion, but so are we. Nobody here is telling him he can't do it, just questioning why he would want to. Big difference when you realize it. As of yet, I've not seen a response.

Below is the best response in this thread.....

 

But, in this case, the OP was not seeking help with or comment upon his mission. Presumably, he had already thought this through to his own satisfaction...

 

What does that have to do with it? Lot's of folks think things through and make decisions that are flawed. Sometimes they need to re-think things.

 

Yes the Rattler is effectively a very short folding stock AR. It's a piston system so there's no buffer tube, and the receiver ends at the folding mechanism. It has a 5.5" barrel in .300blk. Everything else I've seen in 300 have buffer tubes and longer barrels, making them considerably longer in comparison. I don't know how Sig makes the 5.5" barrel work. From what I'm reading most people report needing at least 8.5" barrels to run reliably. With its short length there's a possibility to keep the silencer on it while in the bag as well.

Edit: The Law Tactical folder that you've seen doesn't need the buffer tube to stick out. I haven't seen any guns using that with a barrel this short though. I suppose I could have one assembled but I suspect I there would be a lot of trial and error to get it to run well.

 

I see OP's question as someone, who is wearing rubber Wellington boots for a casual walk in the city, in the middle of the summer. Sure you can wear them when the thermometers are reaching 100 F and no one is going to stop you, but is it really the best option? Are you sure, that such footwear is best suited for that application?

 

If I have to open a bag so that I can open a bag so that I can assemble a weapon so that I can defend myself then I'm not really armed.

Y'all do what you want... .

 

I've never seen a piston operated mechanism like the Rattler in the AR form factor! Sleeker, and likely much lighter than the LAW adapter. Very cool.

Regarding tuning, I put an adjustable gas block on my SBR'd AR 300 BO upper. Then, I worked up accurate super- and sub-sonic loads for my gun. Last, I found gas block settings for each load that cycled the gun while silenced and unsilenced. For a total of four settings.

Does SIG recommend the same kind of process for the Rattler?

 

I'm not sure. It has an adjustable gas block so they probably specify or recommend what to use for super vs subs.

 

Geez, this thread has gone all over the map. Usually a poster wants input on a decision. I think the OP wanted agreement on his (or her) choice. Concealed carry has one purpose; to have a firearm with you if/when you need it. Better to have a NAA "mini revolver" in .22 short in hand when things go South than a Glock 17 with a 33 rd mag back on the nightstand. I don't carry one but I wouldn't insult anyone carrying a SW J Frame .38 spl 24/7. Also, your "carry weapon" needs to be on your person so it can be "deployed" in about 1 second or so. Joe

 

Before I make my main comment I'm going to agree with TheHermit and say that I think Cliche Bro is a troll.

When I was in PLDC they decided to make us take a psych 101 class. It was some new idea they were trying out but the main point is and the only thing that I remember from the class is the instructor telling us that you should never ask a person Why they're doing something. His rationale was you're immediately putting that person in a position to have to justify themselves to you.

So instead of asking Cliche Bro WHY he feels the need to carry a PDW to the gym. Let's approach it from a different angle.

What problem are we trying to solve here?

What condition makes a PDW the appropriate tool for this situation?

Once we get those questions answered then we can proceed to the hardware solution. Which is almost always the least important variable

 

But that's really none of your business as long as it doesn't negatively affect the forum.

 

too many large cities with crime problems are in 2a-unfriendly states: boston, hartford, nyc, philly, baltimore, d.c., chicago, l.a., s.f… and there are too many anti-2a mayors, district attorneys and police chiefs in otherwise pro-2a states.

 

I agree with the "mission defines equipment" theory.
My first post in this thread posed these questions to the OP:

Apparently they were intrusive and not High Road.

This is starting to be a "what gun should I buy next?" thread........where the OP has already decided and doesn't really want opinions, facts or critique.

 

You said "most dangerous cities". I wasn't sure if that meant "the" most dangerous cities or most of the dangerous cities, but either way, the fact remains that by any standard you wish to use, the most dangerous cities in the United States are predominantly in states where anyone who can legally own a firearm can either get a permit to carry one or can do so without a permit.

 

So, out of the top 20 most dangerous cities in the US, 16 are in states that are either shall issue or Constitutional carry. IL is now shall issue, FYI.