URGENT HELP! People from ALL 50 STATES to read this! 24hr deadline!

[Jim March]

Folks,

The California ammo registration bill may land on Gov. Schwarzenegger's desk soon.

The question is, are ANY states in the US currently forcing gun shops to record ammo sales?

WHAT I NEED: people to post in this forum, with their actual first and last name, what state they're in, when they last bought ammo, and whether or not they were able to do so anonymously. If you've also bought ammo in another state anonymously at least fairly recently, mention that too.

Don't tell me about mailorder, I need to know what the situation is AT your local gun shop.

IF California's system will be the only one in the nation, we need to know that.

We do NOT need to record situations where you're a "legal registered ammo buyer" such as the FOID cards of Illinois, Mass, etc. That's a different kind of law. We need info on records of every ammo purchase made, kept at local gun dealers/etc and made available to law enforcement.

We've got 24 hours before the policy analysis docs are finished by the Gov's office.

Californians need not post, unless they've bought ammo anonymously IN another state (don't worry about mailorder).

If you're forced to record purchases, is it due to a local ordinance or state law?

THANKS!

 

[LoneStranger]

I have purchased ammo in the state of Kansas, residence, and in the state of Missouri in the last several months.

In Kansas the purchases were at a gun shop, Wal-Mart, and Gunshows. Try date 6/19/04

In Missouri the purchases were at gunshows.

No ID except for Check to pay for in either state.

Richard N. Dyer
Kansas

Hope this is what you need.

 

[AF_INT1N0]

I purchace 140 rds of mixed 40 cal when I bought my new Kahr K-40 Yesterday. July 31 04 Nothing recorded No ID.
last time before that was in May at Walmart.

Michael Wilson

Nebraska

Whats the deal

 

[Jim March]

Cool.

I have a report in PM on New York state. NYC may be different but we don't need to worry about that.

People can PM me if they won't post here.

Keep it going!

Particularly interested in: Hawaii, New Jersey, other really hardcore "joke zones".

 

[schizrade]

Bought ammo in Reno 3 times in July and they only asked for ID for age verification at 2 gun stores.
Attempted to buy ammo in Walmart in Reno, NV and was informed that I needed to fill out paperwork/card or something. I said forget it. Some guy bought 12 boxes of 12ga. shotgun shells and filled out all of the paperwork. When I objected the guy behind the counter said ,"Well, if you're not a criminal why worry?" Walmart is evil.

 

[Gray Peterson]

Washington State has no ammo purchase registration requirement. You might want to post this on Packing.org, GlockTalk, and a bunch of other stoo.

 

[gewehr44]

Purchased ammo at Walmart in CT. Only need to show ID for pistol ammo to show that you're over 21. No information recorded.

 

[Daemon688]

Bought rifle/shotgun ammo at galyans and gander mountain with no questions asked.

I've bought thousands of rounds over the internet pistol/rifle/shotgun with nothing more than my credit card.

By the way I'm only 18.

 

[Reno]

No ammo registration bullhockey in Colorado.

 

[sm]

PM sent

 

[Jim March]

Arkansas just checked in by PM, nothing there.

I was wondering about the Southern state. A few used to do restrictive gun laws (Jim Crow era stuff) and sometimes "dumb remnants" of that still crop up. North Carolina I think it is still has discretionary handgun purchase rules that are now basically rubber-stamped. Alabama still has "discretionary on paper" CCW (handled shall-issue with rare exceptions). So there could be ammo registration lurking down there somewhere...

 

[Jim March]

Florida checked in.

NO state-wide ammo registration systems found so far.

Keep it coming!

 

[gunsmith]

I've bought ammo in Nevada

without any problems.
If you need my name PM me.

Any news on that question I PM'd you about last week?

 

[Glacius_the_Invincible]

Bought .22 and .45 in Indiana last week. Wal-Mart No questions asked. Paid with credit card. Put it in the cart and headed for the grocery aisle.

Jackson Clark,

Indiana

 

[seed]

Jim...I live in the Kali Bay Area like you. Bought some ammo to shoot in Vegas a while back at the Gun Store on Tropicana and another place (I can't remember the name) on the edge of Vegas (where I shot my first fully-auto machine-gun!). None of that BS you were talking about. I paid, I shot, I went home (my friend's aparment where I was staying, actually).

seed.

 

[Ivy Mike]

Name: ______ _______
State: Nevada

Last time I purchased ammunition was at a gun show. Bought 50 rounds of .40S&W Gold Dots. No recorded ID.

Time before that was at Wal Mart when I purchased several hundred rounds of various handgun calibers. I was carded but only because I paid with a credit card and to make sure I met Wal-Mart policy of being 21 to purchase handgun ammo.

I have also purchased ammunition in the state of Florida 2 years ago. No ID recorded.

All purchases have been anonymous...and should stay that way.

 

[Brett Bellmore]

Not here in Michigan, certainly. I think there might be some age restrictions, but it's been a looong time since anybody carded me...

 

[Jim March]

Maryland and Texas check out by PM.

Folks, if a state is already covered no need for a repeat. Not that repeats will hurt.

Need New Jersey/Hawaii/Rhode Island and other Uberliberal zone info.

Thanks!

 

[cpileri]

pm sent

pm sent

 

[boing]

Not in North Carolina.

Puchased handgun ammo yesterday in a gunshop, and last week at Walmart. No ID requested (I'm obviously of age).

Kenneth Keating

 

[MagKnightX]

08/01/04, purchased by Christopher Upton (father, not me), 64 rds surplus .30-06, 100 rds .44 spl. No ID necessary, no registration, no records.

 

[Gray Peterson]

Cursory check of Rhode Island Weapons law suggests no ammo registration. Also, I bought ammo in Oregon when I was a resident. No ID Recording, only ID check due to it being handgun ammunition.

 

[geekWithA.45]

NJ: Handgun ammo is recorded in a permanent book, FID required. All as per state law.

PA: No ID necessary.

Name available via PM.

 

[lawson4]

I live in SC.
I bought pistol ammo last week without need to give my name, etc.
I bought rifle ammo about 6 months ago. Same drill: no name, address, etc.
I am WAY over 21, so there was no question of age.


Rick Miller
SC

 

[Jim March]

MagKnightX: what state are you in?

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Geekwitha45: thank you. As this will be printed out, I'm going to re-phrase what you said, because there's still an important difference between NJ and the Calif proposal:

New Jersey requires you to get a one-time "gun and ammo owner/buyer registry card". This card takes a background check to get, and has a card number.

When you buy ammo in NJ, the store records what you bought and your card number.

The net amount of recordkeeping the NJ gun dealer does is far less than the California proposal (SB1152).

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We have a report from Wisconsin, no problems. So far only New Jersey is trouble.