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US-Soil Plot Foiled?

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  1. cavman

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070508/ap_on_re_us/fort_dix_plot

    By GEOFF MULVIHILL, Associated Press Writer 31 minutes ago

    MOUNT LAUREL, N.J. - Six men from the former Yugoslavia were arrested on charges they plotted to attack the Fort Dix Army base and "kill as many soldiers as possible," federal authorities said Tuesday.
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    The suspects were described as "Islamic radicals," said U.S. Attorney's Office spokesman Greg Reinert.

    They were scheduled to appear in U.S. District Court in Camden later Tuesday to face charges of conspiracy to kill U.S. servicemen, said Michael Drewniak, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office in New Jersey. Five of them lived in Cherry Hill, he said.

    "They were planning an attack on Fort Dix in which they would kill as many soldiers as possible," Drewniak said.

    A law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity because documents in the case remain sealed, said the attack was stopped in the planning stages.

    Authorities believe the men trained in the Poconos for the attack and also conducted surveillance at other area military institutions, including Fort Monmouth, the official said. The official said that the men had lived in the United States for some time.

    The six were arrested trying to buy automatic weapons in a sale set-up by law enforcement authorities, the official said.

    State Police Capt. Al Della Fave said Tuesday that the investigation had been in the works for about a year. The arrests were first reported by WNBC-TV in New York.

    Jerri Williams, spokeswoman for the
    FBI in Philadelphia, said U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie and J.P. Weis, special agent in charge of the FBI in Philadelphia, would release further information later Thursday.

    Five of suspects lived in Cherry Hill, about 10 miles east of Philadelphia and 20 miles southwest of Fort Dix, Drewniak said.

    Fort Dix is used to train soldiers, particularly reservists. In 1999, it sheltered more than 4,000 ethnic Albanian refugees during the
    NATO bombing campaign against Yugoslavia.

    After that war, refugees were allowed to return to the U.N.-run province of
    Kosovo in Serbia or to seek permanent residency in the United States. The
    U.N. Security Council is considering whether to approve a plan to grant Kosovo independence from Serbia under the supervision of the
    European Union and the United States.

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    In this Dec. 2, 2004, file photo, Army trucks drive to the live ammunition ranges during military convoy training at Fort Dix, N.J. Six people were arrested early Tuesday on charges they plotted to attack the Army base and 'kill as many soldiers as possible,' federal authorities said. (AP Photo/Tim Larsen)
     
  2. Sharps-shooter

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    I don't get it

    Why were they wanting to attack the soldier fort? If they had been Serbs I could understand it as a standard revenge-type motivation. But if they're muslims from former Yugoslavia, then their side is the one that got helped out by the US. Maybe they don't see it that way?
     
  3. armoredman

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    Because we are The Great Satan, no matter what we do. Because we do not bow to Mecca 6 times a day. Because the sole goal of Islam, as stated in the Quoran, is the forcible conversion of the entire world by force. Because they believe they will get thier 72 virgins when they die as martyrs. And lastly, because the reporting of terrorists trying to buy AKs will help the Demorats in thier quest to renew the AWB.
     
  4. El Tejon

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    Why do you think it was Bosnian Muslims?:confused: Lots of people hate Americans in the Balkans. Serbs blame us for lots of stuff.

    Once the USA releases the names will help us know who is responsible.
     
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    Heck I didn't think there were that many soldiers left at Fort Dix!
    I thought they shut down the basic training facilities there.
     
  6. Alex45ACP

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    Switzerland is predominately Christian and they don't seem to get attacked by terrorists for some reason...
     
  7. Devonai

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    It's stuff like this that makes me wish every soldier was required to carry a loaded magazine no matter what the mission.

    Loading this magazine at the wrong time is a serious issue, I understand that, but perhaps it could be stored in a single mag pouch in a plastic bag sealed by duct tape. The presence of the tape would be confirmed by squad leaders during pre-combat inspection.

    I'm just thinking out loud, but this system would require the soldier to make a deliberate effort to load the live ammunition, thus reducing the chance that he will put a round into his bunk, blank adaptor, or buddy.
     
  8. DogBonz

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    Cherry Hill. Ft Dix..

    That’s in my neck of the woods. Damn, looks like it’s time to buy some more ammo.
     
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    Got Gun? Wat'cha waitin' on, Armageddon?

    Woody

    [p] Look at your rights and freedoms as what would be required to survive and be free as if there were no government. Governments come and go, but your rights live on. If you wish to survive government, you must protect with jealous resolve all the powers that come with your rights - especially with the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Without the power of those arms, you will perish with that government - or at its hand. B.E. Wood [/p]
     
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    Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner!!
     
  11. wQuay

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    sshhh... we're in a fight to the death for our very survival... because they hate us for who we are...
     
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    Here is the FBI Report regarding this plot on Smoking Gun:

    The Smoking Gun.

    Definitely Muslim terrorists. In so far as the AWBII we can spin this our way with the public, there are muslim terrorists in the country, is now when you want to be disarmed? These guys are amateurs, imagine if they had been professionals, they wouldn't have needed to buy their weapons illegally, they would have just smuggled them in and then they would have been actual AK's and M-16's not semi-automatic knock-offs.

    This should be used to promote concealed carry, GOA and the NRA should definitely apply pressure for national recognition of ccw's. The police cannot be there to protect you when you are standing in the WienerWald in the mall and shots ring out on the main concourse.
     
  13. Prof. A. Wickwire

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    Why didn't they just go to a gun show, buy "all the guns they can carry," and "use basic tools to easily convert them to fully automatic" I wonder? :rolleyes:

    After all, isn't that what the press reports anyone can do? Especially someplace like Pennsylvania where all the illegal guns in New York are coming from (unless they are all coming from Virginia, or Vermont, or someplace in the South. Depends on the week.)

    I think I need to go lie down.

    Sincerely,

    Prof. A. Wickwire
     
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    They stopped basic in '92 or so, but the base is still very active, and McGuire AFB is right next to it along with Lakehurst Naval Air Station to the south/east. It is one big military land reservation.

    Lots of reserve activity there, Coast Guard uses it, the Navy, the Army still has some schools there and units...the rifle ranges are always active.

    I grew up in the town next door (Browns Mills) and I was born in Walson Army Hospital on FT Dix.
     
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    I was just at Ft. Dix last month for training. Onmilo, they dont do basic training there anymore, but we still train there. The article says they formerly housed Albanian nationals, they now house Iraqi nationals. My company actually stayed in the same barracks, on the same floor, that they were housed on.
     
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    I'd be willing to et that the "medis" drops this story very quick. They, the media as they are now, whioch is very left biased, does not want to show evidence that a plot against American's on US Soil was foiled "On George Bush's Watch!!" All they want to do is talk smack about the war in Iraq. Notice, we NEVER hear about the good being done in Iraq from the media.
     
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    This was obviously meant as a demoralizing tactic
    When are they going to learn we don't get demoralized so much as we get pissed off
    We may get demoralized after we have time to think about it, but by then there are a few thousand dead people somewhere else
     
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    from CBS3.com:

     
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    good thing they said how they got them....

    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/05/08/6_charged_with_plot_to_attack_nj_base/

    From the Boston Globe:

    The FBI was tipped off in January 2006 when a shopkeeper alerted agents about a "disturbing" video he had been asked to copy onto a DVD, according to court documents. The video showed 10 men in their early 20s "shooting assault weapons at a firing range ... while calling for jihad and shouting in Arabic 'Allah Akbar' (God is great)," the complaint said.
     
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    Link to Story

    Yeah... the media is really out to get Bush on this one. :rolleyes:

    Yep. This is really gonna affect how those of us here in the cheap seats view GWB's management of the country these past six years. Better squash it now before we all go enlist...
     
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    good thing the dems in washington don't refer to a War on Terror anymore...:rolleyes:
     
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    Thanks for the links to the names. Saw the protected class names. The media will drop this faster than you can say "Lackawanna Seven.":D
     
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    Illegal aliens every one
     
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