US Soldier accused of spying for Al Qaida

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His lawyer will undoubtedly argue that he didn't actually *do* anything, he was just *planning* to. Which is why I'm not too fond of defense lawyers -- someone has to do it, but it seems too many of them will say and do anything to win at any cost.

I think the Roman Inquisition (not the same thing as the Spanish Inquisition) had a good system: the accused has a right to a lawyer, but lawyers are required to quit and testify against the client if they're convinced of the client's guilt -- and lawyers who defends someone they know to be guilty are considered accomplices to the crime.
 
http://nationalreview.com/comment/malkin200402130909.asp

February 13, 2004, 9:09 a.m.
Trailing Attempted Espionage
Who is Ryan Anderson, a.k.a. Amir Talhah?

By Michelle Malkin

The baby-faced, high-school yearbook photo of Ryan G. Anderson is deceptively mundane and seemingly innocent. On Thursday, the 26-year-old National Guardsman was arrested after allegedly trying to pass information about military capabilities to al Qaeda over the Internet. A Muslim convert, Anderson was a member of the 303rd Armor Battalion of the 81st Armor Brigade at Fort Lewis, Washington. He will be charged with "aiding the enemy by wrongfully attempting to communicate and give intelligence to the al Qaeda terrorist network," said base spokesman Lt. Col. Stephen Barger.




Who is this suspected al Qaeda sympathizer with the boy-next-door looks? Is he another Johnny Taliban who conspired with foreign terrorists, or is he a traitorous wannabe who got caught playing with fire? Either way, the case underscores the continued vulnerability of the U.S. military to Islamist infiltration.

Thursday night, I did a little Internet digging on the groups.google.com search engine of Usenet discussion forums, which provides some interesting clues about Anderson. Washington State University confirms that he graduated from the school in 2002 with a degree in military history, focusing on the Middle East. Using the e-mail address [email protected], Anderson posted prolifically to a strange and volatile variety of Internet newsgroups, including forums for gun enthusiasts, skinheads, cinema, games, Islam, and Arabic culture. He offered opinions on everything from the movie Starship Troopers to sniping weapons and presidential politics. Putting aside the chronic misspellings, the 154 messages are an instructive glimpse into the mind of an immature American youth with a potentially dangerous longing to belong. Here's a small taste:

On Oct. 31, 1996, he posted a message to alt.religion.islam with the subject line, "Help! I am looking to convert, but I dont (sic) know where to start!" The message continued:

I do not know if this is unusal, but I am a 19 year old Army Officer Cadet/collage student of German/Irish decent who was raised in a "zombie Lutheran" home (i.e. everyone always followed the religion their fathers followed with no thought otherwise). I began to look at the Middle East as a course of study as I am a steadfast student of history. Seince beginning my Arab History 272 class a number of months ago, Islam has almost literaly called to me. I find myself scrambeling to find any current information, but in a collage of 24,000, 18,000 of which are students, even an English translation of the Qu'ran is quite nearly impossiable to find. I would like to talk to people, but short of walking up to people of obvious Arab decent and asking them if they are of the Faith, I dont know where to start. I would be greatfull to talk to someone, inshallah. Ryan
Nobody replied to Anderson — at least not through the newsgroup. On Sept. 26, 1997, Anderson — now with a new, adopted Muslim moniker-posted to soc.culture.arabic:


Salaam Alaaykum all,
I am a Muslim convert studying at Washington State University for n Asian History Major, my focus is on Arabic nations (they include them under the Asia program here, I have no idea why).

Anyway, I wish to study abroad in a country like Egypt or Turkey this coming summer (1998) or next fall, for a semester. I have done some initial poking around here for leads, but as of yet found little. I have been told that there is an American college in Cairo, and I believe that there may be some programs in Turkey that I would be interested in, but I havnt seen any info for them for a while and I would like to know if they are still avaliable.

Thank you all,

Salaam,
Amir (Ryan)


Again, no answer. A lonely Anderson turned to the ladies on Oct. 2, 1997, posting an ad headlined, "Old Fashioned Romantic Seeks Dangerous Woman," to pnw.personals:



Im a well educated, underpayed 20 year old who is sick of meeting all the wrong types. Yes, I will admit I am not the usual "man of the '90s", my dream girl must be a tough, independant minded one who can handle herself and isnt worried about acting "un-lady like". A girl who can handle a blade or a rifle is definitly my type, I my self am a fencer, aspireing sword fighter and gun-slinger with an innate ability to work with old weapons. Other intrests include history and travel, old cars, planes and motorcycles- it has been said I am a bit of a Lawerence of Arabia; passionet and a little eccentric, but in my heart of hearts I need someone I can trust implicitly and love fiercely, knowing those two things are returned in full. Can you fit the bill? My physical tastes are picky, but the more you match my psychological needs, the more I will overlook, I am moderate to good looking, 6'0", 170lbs, brown/green with a Scottish/German/Russian ancestory that shows.


No reply.

A few days later, apparently reacting to news of the release of Hamas spiritual leader by Israel in a three-way prisoner swap brokered by Jordan's King Hussein, Anderson offered a conspiracy theory posted to soc.culture.somalia, soc.culture.palestine, alt.religion.islam, and alt.culture.somalia:

Is it possiable Mossad replaced the Shiek entirely? With the amount of knowledge they have on people, I wouldnt put it entirely beyond them to be able to substitute an imposter.

If your theory is correct, and Hamas becomes...ineffective, who then, will fill the power vacuume? The days of the PLO being an effective freedom-fighting group is pretty much over, militarily speaking of course.
Amir Talhah
No response.

Pentagon officials told the press yesterday that Ryan Anderson/Amir Talhah developed "some kind of extremist Muslim ideology," which allegedly motivated the American tank crewman to visit extremist Internet chat rooms where he reportedly offered to pass on to al Qaeda 800 pages of documents describing the armor being deployed in Iraq. (According to officials, it doesn't appear he transmitted any information to terrorists.)

In the end, it seems that Anderson finally got someone to answer to his pathetic pleas for attention on the Internet. We can count our blessings that it was federal investigators who nabbed this useless idiot in a sting operation before he had a chance to make friends with America's worst enemies.

— Michelle Malkin is a syndicated columnist and author of Invasion: How America Still Welcomes Terrorists Criminals & Other Foreign Menaces to Our Shores.
 
At the same time as we have guys giving up the vulnerabilities of our vehicles, there is a company that wants to send bolt-on auxiliary armor to Iraq for the vehicles; and their efforts are being thwarted by the government. It seems that the armor is not "approved" by the military and thus will not be allowed to be installed on the vehicles regardless of how effective it might be. :rolleyes:
 
Here or TFL possibly. I'm sure that the alphabet soup gang is doing a bunch of searches all over the place even as we speak (or type as the case may be :) ).

Greg
 
KING 5 news in Seattle is currently trumpeting his interest in firearms. That he is a suspected death-cult psychotic enabler is of little or no interest apparently. What is important is that we know he had an interest in firearms. I guess they have their priorities straight. I mean it's not like our country is under attack by evil twisted murderous death worshippers. Nah! It's those guns that'll get us.


Oh! Wait a minute! Didn't the left's very own Macy's Parade Balloon point out:

This started out as a documentary on gun violence in
America, but the largest mass murder in our history
was just committed -- without the use of a single gun!
Not a single bullet fired! No bomb was set off, no
missile was fired, no weapon (i.e., a device that was
solely and specifically manufactured to kill humans)
was used. A boxcutter! -- I can't stop thinking about
this. A thousand gun control laws would not have
prevented this massacre. What am I doing?
(excerpt from "Tears Down The West Side Highway" By Michael Moore)

I guess that even stupid white men have lucid moments. :rolleyes:
 
getting stranger

No doubt this dirtbag was here, check the last line from the last letter "Free men can possess arms, slaves cannot.".
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Letters to the editor from Ryan Anderson

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/breaking-news-story.asp?submitdate=2004212212933

During his time in Pullman, Ryan Anderson had three published letters to The Spokesman-Review. In them, he warned against allowing the government to take away personal freedoms, chiefly the right to own firearms. Those letters are reprinted below.


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This war could cost us our freedoms


Some compare our current situation with World War II. However, other than some very basic similarities, there is no comparison.


There are no hordes of enemy tanks and fighter planes. There will be no massive drives against organized, well-equipped, well-defined enemy armies.


Our evil mastermind is a monster of our own creation, much the same as the Columbine shooters. This needs to be a war of hearts and minds, where in order to win we have to defeat ignorance and hatred with information and cooperation. The retribution that is necessary needs to be quick, surgical and effective.


A war in Afghanistan will bleed us dry as it did the Soviets and the British before them.


I fear war for another reason, that being that the elements in our own society who would rob us of our individual liberties and freedoms can use the auspices of national security to steal them. Already in the past century we have given up an alarming amount of individual liberty to feel safe.


No amount of gun control, press restriction or racial or religious profiling will save us from a body count like that of Sept. 11. But if you get a chance to read some of the bills due to go before Congress, some people obviously aren't going to let that stop them from continuing their crusade to save us from ourselves.


Think before calling for indiscriminate war because it may end up being an indiscriminate war on us all.


Ryan G. Anderson

Pullman, Wash.


Published Oct. 5, 2001




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Militia means irregulars - citizens


Walter Becker (Letters, April 22) tries to offer proof that the Second Amendment only applies to the militia, but his reasoning is faulty.


What does he think the militia is? The National Guard? I think not; it's closer to being a standing army than was most of the Royal Army that invaded the then-rebellious 13 colonies!


A militia by definition is an irregular force. It usually includes all able-bodied citizens between the ages of 17 and 45. In simplest terms, a militia is a group of armed citizens who have banded together temporarily to defend their homes and community.


If we went with Becker's interpretation, the Second Amendment would grant a standing army and a police force the right to maintain weapons, a right that has no need to be declared in a document such as the Bill of Rights, even in the 1770s.


I am in favor of intelligent gun control. Should the United States adopt a system along the lines of Switzerland's, I could not be happier. To shooters and collectors like me, it would mean more well-maintained ranges, inexpensive ammunition and, best of all, one free weapon issued to every responsible citizen. But it's not going to happen. Why? Because too many people out there don't mean gun control, they mean total annihilation of private firearms ownership. Until gun control advocates start respecting shooters, we will have no choice but to fight you, tooth and nail, every chance we get.


Ryan G. Anderson

Pullman


Published April 27, 1998




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Firearms not the problem


Once again our eyes and ears are inundated with yet another tragedy, this time in Arkansas, involving the cold-blooded murder of our children by our children.


Although I feel appalled by the carnage, I think I'm even more worried by the response of the citizens of this country. Rather than blaming themselves for allowing their children access to bloody video-games and graphically violent television programs, they choose to blame the easy culprits: firearms.


Our problem these days is that we want to generalize situations and fix problems with a cookie-cutter solution. I don't have all the answers, but I do have some. The solution to the gun issue is to have gun-control spearheaded by level-headed and responsible shooters, people who know and are directly affected by such regulations. Anything else will just be temporary, and doomed to both failure and tragedy.


I fear that my voice, however, is but a calm whisper in a room of angry shouts. Today I am a young soldier, sworn to protect and defend this country, but if tomorrow I find that this nation is no longer the one based upon the freedom I was taught to love, I'll have little choice but to go where I can live in freedom. When you people out there who would give up liberty for safety, stand up to be counted, you'll not find me among you, because you deserve neither. Free men can possess arms, slaves cannot.


Ryan G. Anderson

Pullman


Published April 9, 1998

:fire:
 
Up here in the Pacific Northwest, we have a term for an inexplicable screw-up or choke job. Anderson would be said to be "cooginit" as that was his destiny once he attended Washington State University in Pullman.:D

Don't worry about the antis using Anderson as their poster child. Once everyone knows he's a Coog, they'll immediately understand that the boy has some serious demons.;)

P.S. Mike Hawash and that gang of idiots are from Portland, Oregon and its surrounding suburbs. That is nearly 200 miles from Ft. Lewis, Washington for the geographically impaired folks from smaller states.
 
I feel like I stepped in a big pile of doggie-doo...

(SMLE, I'm catching up on you with those SETI results, BTW!)

Ok, see that rifle which the news headlines have been showing? The one where Mr. Anderson is holding up a scoped SMLE? Aaarrrgghhh!

I bought that Lithgow NoIMkIII* rifle from him on my C&R FFL. I've posted it here before, when I put new coachwood on it, and a new scope.

So now, as they've already seized his computer, my email address is there for the investigation to query.

SMLE, I purposely made an appointment and talked to the OSI today, and spelled out my business transaction with our mouth-breathing hero. They may or may not request a copy of my bound book, and want the emails I had from him. I feel genuinely angry that the upstanding members of the old GunAndKnife Lee-Enfield forum, and others, may have their email addresses or websites scrutinized because of one bonehead who figured himself the savior of the Islamic World. And the story gets even more weird as it unfolds... :fire:

Shoot me a PM, I'll let you know what I know from this end. I know your pic of him wasn't necessarily in the public domain for ABC to put on the news. And my rifle... :banghead:
 
Yikes. This is an odd one. Hopefully the "radical Islamist" angle will trump the "gun nut" angle in the media. After all, he WAS trying to peddle secrets to al-Queda.

Then again, the "gun nut" angle is a pretty PC thing to bring up.

My bet is you'll see "gun nut" brought up as one reason for the "radical Islamism" though I certainly don't see a connection.

What I see, especially in the Michelle Malkin article, is a loner desperate to belong to something.
 
The antis will try to link this story to the "gun show loophole" and why we need to close it as soon as possible to stop the "enemy within".
 
It seems that the stupid little git was arrested once before.
Ryan Anderson walks handcuffed past his rifle after being arrested by a Snohomish County Sheriff in this May 22, 1998 file photo when police responded to a call of a man with a firearm near an elementary school near Everett, Washington. U.S. Army Spc. Ryan Anderson, a recent Muslim convert, was charged on February 12, 2004 with trying to pass military secrets to the Islamic militant group al Qaeda after being caught in a sting operation, military officials said on Thursday.
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Assan Akbar (original name: Mark Fidel Kools), soldier in the 101st who attacked a bunch of other soldiers with grenades in Iraq. Killed 1 and injured 15. Apparently converted to Islam in California.

John Allen Mohommed (original name: John Allen Williams), ex-soldier and convert to Islam who was the DC "sniper." Found guilty & sentenced to death.

Captain James Yee, converted to Islam in Syria, accused of Espionage, looks like JAG botched their case and went for some lesser included offences instead. Oddly enough, was big into adultery and downloading internet porn using government computer networks.

Add Ryan G. Anderson (aka Amir Talhah), currently serving soldier and recent convert to Islam who apparently tried to sell secrets to Al-Qaeda.

U.S. Military converts to Islam (as opposed to folks just brought up that way) are building quite a track record there. Especially when you consider the tiny proportion of the U.S. military they make up at any time. Contrast this with the apparent lack of anti-American violence from Muslim citizens of the U.S. in general. Much bigger pool of people than Muslims in the military, obviously.
 
Contrast this with the apparent lack of anti-American violence from Muslim citizens of the U.S. in general.

You make a good point. I wonder how readily these people would've "converted to "Budism" during WWII?

How many german speaking people do you suppose walked around saying how our involvement was wrong?

Do you suppose they would've been met with cheers?

I wonder how Kerry would've done running against Ike saying the things like he was against GW?

:barf:
 
My bet is you'll see "gun nut" brought up as one reason for the "radical Islamism" though I certainly don't see a connection.
I think you are right. They'll probably jump on the gun nut as the main reason though. They have to be sensitive to religion, so they'll push hard on the gun nut angle.
 
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Well, if we weren't under surveillance before, we sure as hell are now.

Howdy Feds!

- Gabe
 
Sean,

none so radical as a convert. I should know, for a time in my teens I was a convert to quite fundamentalist Christian values (not necessarily saying there is an equivalence) and went in for telling people that I thought they would be going to hell etc. The folly of even younger youth than my present state huh?

You won't find me complaining about whatever is decided to be done with this guy if he is found guilty. Realistically I have doubts that many on this thread will be satisfied with his punishment.

Bad luck to all that have had dealings with him, I hope that the investigators will not even bother perfectly respectable firearm forum posters who have nothing to do with this in any way.
 
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